Virginia Redbird said:I did not watch either game but congratulations to the North Central Cardinals for winning the DIV III Championship and bringing the trophy to Illinois. Nice to see someone win besides Wisconsin-Whitewater or Mount Union. Now someone needs to knock off the Bison!
fourthandshort said:Virginia Redbird said:I did not watch either game but congratulations to the North Central Cardinals for winning the DIV III Championship and bringing the trophy to Illinois. Nice to see someone win besides Wisconsin-Whitewater or Mount Union. Now someone needs to knock off the Bison!
very impressive run and Natty for North Central ... they knocked Mount Union on the way... then they demolished a very good Whitewater yesterday, who had knocked off the other 2 D-III powers St Johns and Mary-Harding Baylor on their way to Natty.
Before playoffs, North Central was ranked 7th, behind #1 Mount Union, #2 Hardin Baylor, #3 Whitewater, and #4 St Johns.
North Central's only loss in regular season was to #5 Wheaton, who lost in playoffs to #4 St Johns.
MadBird said:fourthandshort said:Virginia Redbird said:I did not watch either game but congratulations to the North Central Cardinals for winning the DIV III Championship and bringing the trophy to Illinois. Nice to see someone win besides Wisconsin-Whitewater or Mount Union. Now someone needs to knock off the Bison!
very impressive run and Natty for North Central ... they knocked Mount Union on the way... then they demolished a very good Whitewater yesterday, who had knocked off the other 2 D-III powers St Johns and Mary-Harding Baylor on their way to Natty.
Before playoffs, North Central was ranked 7th, behind #1 Mount Union, #2 Hardin Baylor, #3 Whitewater, and #4 St Johns.
North Central's only loss in regular season was to #5 Wheaton, who lost in playoffs to #4 St Johns.
Mrs. MadBird and I attended both the St.John's quarterfinal game at Wheaton and semi-final at Whitewater. Wheaton was a very good team, good size, and the game went down to the final seconds, with a missed extra point deciding the game ("at the buzzer"). Whitewater was a very impressive and versatile team, could run it and pass it and defend. I would say in the end they just wore the Johnnies down. FG at the end for the final margin of victory.
Whitewater features lots of Chicago area kids along with Wisconsin kids, and North Central and Wheaton are largely Chicagao area kids. All three have really good size - I think UWW had to average 300+ lbs on the OL. The North Central QB won the Gagliardi Trophy, the DIII equivalent to the Heisman.
St. John's also took on Aurora University in the playoffs, which is coached by former pro Don Beebe. Also a very prolific QB and passing attack.
Good football, fun to watch.
Especially since they were penalized 15 on the TD because the offensive lineman who ran the ball in spiked the ball in excitement. He realized right away what he did and was kicking himself.Virginia Redbird said:MadBird said:fourthandshort said:very impressive run and Natty for North Central ... they knocked Mount Union on the way... then they demolished a very good Whitewater yesterday, who had knocked off the other 2 D-III powers St Johns and Mary-Harding Baylor on their way to Natty.
Before playoffs, North Central was ranked 7th, behind #1 Mount Union, #2 Hardin Baylor, #3 Whitewater, and #4 St Johns.
North Central's only loss in regular season was to #5 Wheaton, who lost in playoffs to #4 St Johns.
Mrs. MadBird and I attended both the St.John's quarterfinal game at Wheaton and semi-final at Whitewater. Wheaton was a very good team, good size, and the game went down to the final seconds, with a missed extra point deciding the game ("at the buzzer"). Whitewater was a very impressive and versatile team, could run it and pass it and defend. I would say in the end they just wore the Johnnies down. FG at the end for the final margin of victory.
Whitewater features lots of Chicago area kids along with Wisconsin kids, and North Central and Wheaton are largely Chicagao area kids. All three have really good size - I think UWW had to average 300+ lbs on the OL. The North Central QB won the Gagliardi Trophy, the DIII equivalent to the Heisman.
St. John's also took on Aurora University in the playoffs, which is coached by former pro Don Beebe. Also a very prolific QB and passing attack.
Good football, fun to watch.
It sounds like it was an exciting game but what a heartbreaking way to lose.
I think it would be great to play those schools at those schools. I agree with the weeknight thing but a chance at a bowl game in decent weather would be cool. But we could still use a practice facility to compete IMO.topiarydan said:Unless the MVC expends then I find playing the following in the MAC West a lot more interesting than playing North Dakota, South Dakota and Indy State - also a lot easier to get to. Granted playing on Tuesday and Weds nites to whore yourself out to ESPN isn't what I would call a good deal
However wouldn't it be nice to have the following to go to
Northern Illinois
Ball State
Western Michigan
Central Michigan
Toledo
Miami Ohio
then some crossovers to
BG
Akron
Kent Sate
Buffalo
Ohio
Eastern Michigan
salsa said:Especially since they were penalized 15 on the TD because the offensive lineman who ran the ball in spiked the ball in excitement. He realized right away what he did and was kicking himself.Virginia Redbird said:MadBird said:Mrs. MadBird and I attended both the St.John's quarterfinal game at Wheaton and semi-final at Whitewater. Wheaton was a very good team, good size, and the game went down to the final seconds, with a missed extra point deciding the game ("at the buzzer"). Whitewater was a very impressive and versatile team, could run it and pass it and defend. I would say in the end they just wore the Johnnies down. FG at the end for the final margin of victory.
Whitewater features lots of Chicago area kids along with Wisconsin kids, and North Central and Wheaton are largely Chicagao area kids. All three have really good size - I think UWW had to average 300+ lbs on the OL. The North Central QB won the Gagliardi Trophy, the DIII equivalent to the Heisman.
St. John's also took on Aurora University in the playoffs, which is coached by former pro Don Beebe. Also a very prolific QB and passing attack.
Good football, fun to watch.
It sounds like it was an exciting game but what a heartbreaking way to lose.
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Virginia Redbird said:Wow...that poor kid!
I quit going to weeknight bball games about 10 yrs ago. Makes for too hard a day at work the next day. I have to assume that the only reason the MAC has chosen to play these games is that it has a majority of members with enough trouble paying their bills that they're willing to do something this bad to their fans and players. I like the conference otherwise, but these weekday games are a deal-breaker for me.TIMMY said:I think it would be great to play those schools at those schools. I agree with the weeknight thing but a chance at a bowl game in decent weather would be cool. But we could still use a practice facility to compete IMO.topiarydan said:Unless the MVC expends then I find playing the following in the MAC West a lot more interesting than playing North Dakota, South Dakota and Indy State - also a lot easier to get to. Granted playing on Tuesday and Weds nites to whore yourself out to ESPN isn't what I would call a good deal
However wouldn't it be nice to have the following to go to
Northern Illinois
Ball State
Western Michigan
Central Michigan
Toledo
Miami Ohio
then some crossovers to
BG
Akron
Kent Sate
Buffalo
Ohio
Eastern Michigan
StLRedbird said:I quit going to weeknight bball games about 10 yrs ago. Makes for too hard a day at work the next day. I have to assume that the only reason the MAC has chosen to play these games is that it has a majority of members with enough trouble paying their bills that they're willing to do something this bad to their fans and players. I like the conference otherwise, but these weekday games are a deal-breaker for me.TIMMY said:I think it would be great to play those schools at those schools. I agree with the weeknight thing but a chance at a bowl game in decent weather would be cool. But we could still use a practice facility to compete IMO.topiarydan said:Unless the MVC expends then I find playing the following in the MAC West a lot more interesting than playing North Dakota, South Dakota and Indy State - also a lot easier to get to. Granted playing on Tuesday and Weds nites to whore yourself out to ESPN isn't what I would call a good deal
However wouldn't it be nice to have the following to go to
Northern Illinois
Ball State
Western Michigan
Central Michigan
Toledo
Miami Ohio
then some crossovers to
BG
Akron
Kent Sate
Buffalo
Ohio
Eastern Michigan
Does anyone think that playing weekday games has increased awareness of the MAC or improved opinions about the level of play there?
Same here. I end up checking in on those MAC games several times a year. Watch some, wander away from others. I’m more aware of MAC football, but watching it has not raised my opinion. Also, JMO, but I think CUSA has been better the past few years. No idea what Sagarin and Massey say....MadBird said:StLRedbird said:I quit going to weeknight bball games about 10 yrs ago. Makes for too hard a day at work the next day. I have to assume that the only reason the MAC has chosen to play these games is that it has a majority of members with enough trouble paying their bills that they're willing to do something this bad to their fans and players. I like the conference otherwise, but these weekday games are a deal-breaker for me.TIMMY said:I think it would be great to play those schools at those schools. I agree with the weeknight thing but a chance at a bowl game in decent weather would be cool. But we could still use a practice facility to compete IMO.
Does anyone think that playing weekday games has increased awareness of the MAC or improved opinions about the level of play there?
I totally agree with your perspective on weekday games (I still go to Wisconsin bball games during the week), but wouldn't want any part of a MAC schedule. I have to admit, I have looked in on a MAC game now and then during the week. So, maybe increased my awareness but not my opinion.