only 4 would be moving up most likely. just go into a different conference. Most, ndsu, sdsu, and a wildcard would move up. there is not much appetite for Southern Illinois, Nortnern Iowa, Indiana State, Murray State, and maybe even Illinois State. the commish would keep the mvfc fcs and tell the others bye. i could see YSU moving up to the MAC if they got invited. Even if invited I'm not sure ISU would make that jump.
If those teams were in the MVC they wouldn't be doing as well as they did in most of their tournament appearance seasons.
Is this supposed to be a deterrent? I’m seeing a lot of similar seeds to MVC. Also, we all know the MVC is a better basketball league and the MAC knows it too. Nationally? They are both one bid leagues.
Yes, it should be. If you ever want to be in a conference with multiple bids, going to a much worse conference doesn't help. Having your football team play on Tuesday or Wednesday doesn't help fan engagement either. The MVC is also better for baseball and woman's basketball. Spending $5,000,000 to move to a conference we would want to use as a stepping stone to a better conference. Massey also has the worst two teams in the FBS as Akron and Kent State.Is this supposed to be a deterrent? I’m seeing a lot of similar seeds to MVC. Also, we all know the MVC is a better basketball league and the MAC knows it too. Nationally? They are both one bid leagues.
Bingo. If you could promise me the 12 MVC basketball schools are in it for the long term and the MVFC won’t change then stay put. MSU stays flirting with CUSA and many think it’s legit this time. Then what if A10 calls Belmont? They’ll bolt. I don’t trust the makeup of the league to replace teams properly. It’s time to look out for ourselves instead of taking the same mindset that set our athletics back decades.
Youre basically saying do nothing because youre afraid of the unknown. You cant go about life or business that way.
I said don't do anything now because the MAC doesn't move the needle and when the shakeup does occur, move then.
being stuck in the MAC is the worst case scenario. is it really that bad? jump now and try to prove yourself and see if you can use it as a stepping stone. if you cant its not like its the worst scenario. it really only effects mens basketball which hasnt danced in 26 years anyway. its not like were leaving a great situation.
What does going to and staying in the MAC do for ISU that can't be accomplished in the MVC/MVFC? Because it is not a stepping stone conference.
My thinking is very much along these lines. In MAC football, we'd have rivalries with old rivals C.Michigan, Ball State, NIU, but really you'd have to go back quite a ways to remember we were in a conference with these guys. Or remember ISU's big upset win over ranked Akron back in the last century, in the 70's. You'd have to really know your football to know Miami is the "cradle of coaches". ETC. I have long contended for the average fan, especially the average current student there's no functional difference between the MVFC Dakota rivals, SIU, Mo.State and Bowling Green, Western Michigan, Kent State, etc. Or Appalachian State, South Alabama, Sam Houston State or any of those you wanna bring up. On the negative side to me are the weeknight home games.
Youngstown State would easily be the smallest school in the MAC. There are currently six Ohio schools in the MAC. I would suspect they are not holding their breath waiting for a call from Jon Steinbrenner.