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StLRedbird said:Couple things...
Dixie St first season at D1 in 2020 - currently D2
UND first season in MVFC in 2020
fourthandshort said:I'm really not for conference expansion .. I just don't like how it messes up scheduling and leads to inequities. Example with Colonial who has 12 teams .. their conference champ last year was Maine .. they went 7-1, but also benefited considerably from scheduling by not having to play JMU, Stoney Brook, or Delaware. They get same schedule this season.
I'm hearing rumblings (not even rumors) that some think YSU should leave MVFC because of how much travel is required playing in MVFC, especially as more Dakota schools have been added to MVFC. The other option is to find a 12th team, and split into two 6 team divisions. But that would currently make the west division (NDSU, SDSU, UNI, etc) much tougher than the east division .. so still more inequity in scheduling every year, not just once in a while.
In 2014 and 2015, NDSU and ISUr were the MVFC co-champs because we didn't play each other and tied those years. The only official tie breaker is to determine who gets the auto-bid .. there was no official tie breaker for conf champion .. which is fair, but still sucks. I would rather we stayed with 9 teams, though now at 10 with USD added 5 years ago .. and soon 11 with UND added.
There are far worse things to worry about .. but I would prefer no more expansion. Curious what others think ???
ISUBU said:Are the MAC programs top to bottom healthier than the MVFC programs? You assume they are. Are they for the long run?
Would an upgraded MVFC bring in enough new revenue to balance the increased costs?
NIU has only three Saturday home games this year in FB. Is that the future?
I'm all for exploring options and this is one, but I'm also interested in building the football program that we have. The stronger we get helps us to be in a position to jump at opportunities that we develop or we find. So right now work at building an indoor facility, increasing attendance, and winning even more games.
That's a fair question, warrior. I look at the MAC because it's our only practical option for FBS - not for any of the reasons you suggest. My question was: Is taking the MVFC to FBS a realistic second option?Redbirdwarrior said:You guys keep asking if the gap between MVFC and MAC is that difficult to jump. It really isn't, but that isn't the question. The question is WHY do you want to jump to the MAC? It is because you see an opportunity to have your school highlighted on ESPN, play against the big guys and be considered the "top level" of college football. I hate to tell you this, but the NCAA structure we are trying to gameplan to take advantage of is going to change. The "mid major" conferences are about a decade from not being highlighted on anything more than ESPN+ or regional NBC Sports platforms. Teams in the MAC are having this exact same conversation about how to somehow jump into the Big 10 and the Big 12. To set a scale, if the gap between MVFC and MAC is a few feet. The gap between the MAC and the Big 10 or SEC is 200 feet or more.
Conference expansion along with two divisions and a title game would lead to a clear MVFC champ. The current alignment and scheduling can create co-champs. If winning the MVFC outright is a big deal for someone then there is your benefit.fourthandshort said:I'm really not for conference expansion .. I just don't like how it messes up scheduling and leads to inequities. Example with Colonial who has 12 teams .. their conference champ last year was Maine .. they went 7-1, but also benefited considerably from scheduling by not having to play JMU, Stoney Brook, or Delaware. They get same schedule this season.
I'm hearing rumblings (not even rumors) that some think YSU should leave MVFC because of how much travel is required playing in MVFC, especially as more Dakota schools have been added to MVFC. The other option is to find a 12th team, and split into two 6 team divisions. But that would currently make the west division (NDSU, SDSU, UNI, etc) much tougher than the east division .. so still more inequity in scheduling every year, not just once in a while.
In 2014 and 2015, NDSU and ISUr were the MVFC co-champs because we didn't play each other and tied those years. The only official tie breaker is to determine who gets the auto-bid .. there was no official tie breaker for conf champion .. which is fair, but still sucks. I would rather we stayed with 9 teams, though now at 10 with USD added 5 years ago .. and soon 11 with UND added.
There are far worse things to worry about .. but I would prefer no more expansion. Curious what others think ???
Total Red said:I think we need to add someone to the east for two 6 teams divisions or we may lose Youngstown St. and I wouldn't want that to happen. Lots of possibilities but if Dayton wanted to upgrade their football program they would be high on my list. You can list lots of others but don't just list schools that we would like to have. List schools that might want to join.
ChiRedbirdfan said:Total Red said:I think we need to add someone to the east for two 6 teams divisions or we may lose Youngstown St. and I wouldn't want that to happen. Lots of possibilities but if Dayton wanted to upgrade their football program they would be high on my list. You can list lots of others but don't just list schools that we would like to have. List schools that might want to join.
I have trouble seeing Dayton wanting to be associated with the MVFC schools.
Total Red said:ChiRedbirdfan said:Total Red said:I think we need to add someone to the east for two 6 teams divisions or we may lose Youngstown St. and I wouldn't want that to happen. Lots of possibilities but if Dayton wanted to upgrade their football program they would be high on my list. You can list lots of others but don't just list schools that we would like to have. List schools that might want to join.
I have trouble seeing Dayton wanting to be associated with the MVFC schools.
Fired up 'bout that Pioneer Conference?
ChiRedbirdfan said:Dayton must be since they were a founding member of the PFL and have been in the PFL for nearly 30 years. You said "don't just list schools that we would like to have. List school that might want to join." Seems like Dayton is a like to have vs might want to join.