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The way Kentucky fans treated him at the end of the season I hope he does leave. Goes somewhere he can get NIL and be treated with respect.
 
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BirdGrad2011 said:
The way Kentucky fans treated him at the end of the season I hope he does leave. Goes somewhere he can get NIL and be treated with respect.
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The way they treated him? He was treated very very well with the exception of his 1 for whatever final game. I have associates who are season tickets holders for UK who would really disagree with you. Antonio was in a 1% 'income' bracket last season with world-class travel, outstanding living accommodations, and the best food a 22 year old can get. He drove a killer car, got to play in one of the top basketball venues in the country, elite training staff & facilities, and gained a heck of a lot more exposure. Calipari also made it clear throughout the season that Antonio's job on the team was to SCORE. How many players get that green light?

Oh yeah, he advanced his academic status as well...although that doesn't really count now, does it?

It's a me-first world. Shaking my head, but sure...go get yours, Antonio. But I have a hard time believing you'll have a better setup than UK.
 
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The way they treated him? He was treated very very well with the exception of his 1 for whatever final game. I have associates who are season tickets holders for UK who would really disagree with you. Antonio was in a 1% 'income' bracket last season with world-class travel, outstanding living accommodations, and the best food a 22 year old can get. He drove a killer car, got to play in one of the top basketball venues in the country, elite training staff & facilities, and gained a heck of a lot more exposure. Calipari also made it clear throughout the season that Antonio's job on the team was to SCORE. How many players get that green light?

Oh yeah, he advanced his academic status as well...although that doesn't really count now, does it?

It's a me-first world. Shaking my head, but sure...go get yours, Antonio. But I have a hard time believing you'll have a better setup than UK.
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Something else to consider, Coach Cal said at the end of the year, he didn't expect any of the seniors back, and he may be trying to recruit accordingly.
 
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Humdinger said:
The way they treated him? He was treated very very well with the exception of his 1 for whatever final game. I have associates who are season tickets holders for UK who would really disagree with you. Antonio was in a 1% 'income' bracket last season with world-class travel, outstanding living accommodations, and the best food a 22 year old can get. He drove a killer car, got to play in one of the top basketball venues in the country, elite training staff & facilities, and gained a heck of a lot more exposure. Calipari also made it clear throughout the season that Antonio's job on the team was to SCORE. How many players get that green light?

Oh yeah, he advanced his academic status as well...although that doesn't really count now, does it?

It's a me-first world. Shaking my head, but sure...go get yours, Antonio. But I have a hard time believing you'll have a better setup than UK.
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Yes, Tone was treated well by the team, the school, and many fans. He was also reviled by many fans on social networks . . . As is usual, the haters are more vocal on social networks, so what Tone probably heard from those sources probably didn't sit well with him. Then again, if he thinks it's going to get better elsewhere or when he plays professionally, he may want to do a reality check.
 
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Guessing Reeves and Company are possibly not thrilled with NIL deal at KY and trying to see if more is out there? This may be his biggest income year of his hoop career if NBA is not an option. He might as well get what he can as he is no spring chicken in terms of physical/skill development. If he can squeeze out an additional 50 or 100K elsewhere or force the KY NIL to pay more than what is on the table then why not test the grad transfer waters?
 
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My issue isn't so much that he's seeking to 'establish/increase his brand' in the next year...it's the claim that he was treated poorly. There's an element of that aspect which every college player at major D1 level (good grief even our level) has to deal with! Overall, he's hardly been treated poorly. I'm a fan of Tone and man do I wish him well.

Let's be honest, though. He isn't treated poorly. He's been spoiled. So be it!🤷‍♂️ I readily admit if I had a son/daughter competing at that level...in this particular day and age...frankly, you have to weigh what you're getting "paid."

And to think that Pemberton actually felt blessed, for the first 4 yrs of college, to run 10,000 miles for Donewald (while getting screamed at for at least 5000 of those) and earn a college degree in the process! Different world. Different attitude. Different players. Ohhhhh Rickie Johnson where art thou?!!!!!
 
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My issue isn't so much that he's seeking to 'establish/increase his brand' in the next year...it's the claim that he was treated poorly. There's an element of that aspect which every college player at major D1 level (good grief even our level) has to deal with! Overall, he's hardly been treated poorly. I'm a fan of Tone and man do I wish him well.

Let's be honest, though. He isn't treated poorly. He's been spoiled. So be it!🤷‍♂️ I readily admit if I had a son/daughter competing at that level...in this particular day and age...frankly, you have to weigh what you're getting "paid."

And to think that Pemberton actually felt blessed, for the first 4 yrs of college, to run 10,000 miles for Donewald (while getting screamed at for at least 5000 of those) and earn a college degree in the process! Different world. Different attitude. Different players. Ohhhhh Rickie Johnson where art thou?!!!!!
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Well I'm sure what he'll get paid weighs a lot.
 
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Spot on by Humdinger - Reeves is spoiled..
Nice player and doesn’t like the scolding from Blue Blood fan base when he’s 1 for umteen in biggest game of his teams season.
2011 says he needs to go where he’s appreciated- Car and $$’s bring INPUT from fans.
‘11 u jumped on me when I posted that Mal shouldn’t start next yr - WTF u said as I posted…….
‘11, hoping u are Not an Il State Business guy cause u seem pretty wet behind the ears in judgement
 
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Hats off to former Redbird Katy Winge. She works her first NBA finals game today.
 
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Apologies to 2011 for the edgy comments - that's uncalled for and not what this great basketball board is intended for.
I'll do better.
 
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I don’t take offense to anyone defending KY. I do wonder if anyone saw the constant barrage of tweets saying “a kid from Illinois State? No wonder we lost.” All season long. “We are in trouble if our best scorer is a transfer from Illinois State.”

A spoiled, condescending fan base never embraced him and pounced every chance they got. Does that come with NIL money now? I’m not sure. We’ve vilified people on here for less drastic takes.
 
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Personally, I love seeing them lose. Their fan base is one of the worst in all of college bball. They have been skirting the rules for years and now the NIL situation allows them to bring it out into the open. Cheating?!?! Us? No way!! Their 5 star living quarters is beyond belief.

Antonio has to do what is best for him and I applaud him for that. That's how it works.
 
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BirdGrad2011 said:
I don’t take offense to anyone defending KY. I do wonder if anyone saw the constant barrage of tweets saying “a kid from Illinois State? No wonder we lost.” All season long. “We are in trouble if our best scorer is a transfer from Illinois State.”

A spoiled, condescending fan base never embraced him and pounced every chance they got. Does that come with NIL money now? I’m not sure. We’ve vilified people on here for less drastic takes.
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They probably would have said those comments whether NIL was involved or not. They have high expectations every year and it was obvious the team was not as strong as recent years.

I don't condone all of their behavior but when you are getting paid a nice sum of money and car, you should expect to hear grumbling when you and the team doesn't perform. You are now being compensated so you need to deal with good and bad. Fans can still cross the line whether amateur or professional and that is unacceptable when that happens.
 
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They probably would have said those comments whether NIL was involved or not. They have high expectations every year and it was obvious the team was not as strong as recent years.

I don't condone all of their behavior but when you are getting paid a nice sum of money and car, you should expect to hear grumbling when you and the team doesn't perform. You are now being compensated so you need to deal with good and bad. Fans can still cross the line whether amateur or professional and that is unacceptable when that happens.
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With NIL in play, you are a professional athlete so you might as well get used to the scrutiny.
 
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