ricohill
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ChiRedbirdfan said:ISU FAN 1 said:It’s more complicated than discrediting Lyons for the MBB program being in the crapper, and crediting him for volleyball success. On a micro level, the department can claim some successes. But the big picture has been a failure under Lyons direction, unless nepotism is the measuring stick. Lyons destroyed his credibility by having Jared and Ivanka on the payroll.
This is exactly right. The state of ISU athletics are unhealthy long term if one analyzes the big picture. They Reside in a sinking conference as respects to competitive profile and membership. Successful athletic programs leave the comference and the MVC in turn raids lesser conferences for new athletic programs. This has been hallmark of the MVC going back to its existence. Also the MVC conference is divided by private schools that have different needs than the public university’s needs. Both sides work against each other.
ISU athletics are bifurcated by having the two main sports in different conferences with a different level of play which eliminates scheduling, marketing, and promotional synergies. ISU basketball and football can not change conferences for the better if it was ever desired as there is no place to go. The football program and basketball programs are fighting against each other for limited resources to the detriment of each other. Those programs would each be better off without the other (example ... best thing that ever happened to Wichita basketball was their AD department getting rid of fcs football or the best thing that ever happened to Creighton basketball was eliminating their football)
Fan interest wanning and fundraising has been poor. ISU athletics one of the 50 Worst performing athletic departments as measured by subsidy percentage. The ISU athletic department profile is even more disappointing when looking at the profile on the university side. Some people compare ISU to NIU when talking about athletic department success. Why?.... as that is such a low hurdle and a disservice to the university side. ISU should find meaningful comparable national universities when evaluating their athletics and wake up to reality as to how underperforming athletics have been for ISU and then formulate a long term strategy to fix, which could take several decades.
As an side I too have shifted my donations away from ISU athletics. I also regret any donation I have made in the last 3 years as the department has no long term vision, is currently poorly lead and donations are a waste of money, IMO.
Excellent post!!! Great to see someone else that gets what is going on.
My question for Lyons and the athletic department would be what are your goals and what does success look like? I'm guessing success to them would be to break even financially. I don't think the goal is to grow and develop top-tier athletic programs. Nothing they do shows an interest in becoming an elite athletic department.
Does ISU have a 1, 5, 10, or 25 year plan for the athletic department? Not from what I understand. They have no plan for fundraising other than to randomly ask people for money. Now they are making coaches do their own fundraising as well.
Making a donation now is just throwing your money away. The fact that Dietz is ok with Lyons pretty much sums up how little athletic success means to him.