Arena Makeover

[JHBird]

My friend's kids loved to shoot baskets after the game. It was kind of fun to watch all those balls flying around. A few years ago I watched Chris Payton set up a kid in front of the basket and then do a dunk over him. Maybe that's the kind of stuff they worried about, but I gave it two thumbs up. We need more of that IMO -- more flying dunks over kids. Everybody loved it.

 

[ricohill]

Maybe this is a legit liability issue, but that seems unlikely to me that suddenly ISU realized this is a risk to them. ISU tried to stop it last year, but people were upset and they gave in. Seems like they are coming up with an excuse to get out of it.

Now the only reason to bring your kids is to watch the product Dan Muller puts on the floor. Great teaching opportunity for parents to explain how the ISU players and team are making mistakes and to not do what ISU does.

 

[Adunk33]

Another thought regarding liability issues. I've seen a lot of times that there will be language on the back of the ticket or in the fine print digitally where the person who purchases the ticket assumes liability. I've seen it most commonly with baseball where bats and balls fly into the stands on the regular. It covers the team so they don't face litigation. Often times if a major issue happens, the team will reach out to the injured person directly with memorabilia, or free tickets, etc.

I assume since a majority of the people who attend games are season ticket holders- its too late to get that messaging on their tickets.

 

[ricohill]

Another thought regarding liability issues. I've seen a lot of times that there will be language on the back of the ticket or in the fine print digitally where the person who purchases the ticket assumes liability. I've seen it most commonly with baseball where bats and balls fly into the stands on the regular. It covers the team so they don't face litigation. Often times if a major issue happens, the team will reach out to the injured person directly with memorabilia, or free tickets, etc.

I assume since a majority of the people who attend games are season ticket holders- its too late to get that messaging on their tickets.

They could do this with season tickets or any ticket purchased. That would take planning ahead of time. As you said, it is too late now. Probably, the ISU admins and staff didn't want to hang around after the game. Sad to see a great tradition end.

 

[Bird Friend]

Another thought regarding liability issues. I've seen a lot of times that there will be language on the back of the ticket or in the fine print digitally where the person who purchases the ticket assumes liability. I've seen it most commonly with baseball where bats and balls fly into the stands on the regular. It covers the team so they don't face litigation. Often times if a major issue happens, the team will reach out to the injured person directly with memorabilia, or free tickets, etc.

I assume since a majority of the people who attend games are season ticket holders- its too late to get that messaging on their tickets.

A good lawyer gets passed the "waiver" pretty easily.

 

[jamminjamarsmiley]

Another thought regarding liability issues. I've seen a lot of times that there will be language on the back of the ticket or in the fine print digitally where the person who purchases the ticket assumes liability. I've seen it most commonly with baseball where bats and balls fly into the stands on the regular. It covers the team so they don't face litigation. Often times if a major issue happens, the team will reach out to the injured person directly with memorabilia, or free tickets, etc.

I assume since a majority of the people who attend games are season ticket holders- its too late to get that messaging on their tickets.

A good lawyer gets passed the "waiver" pretty easily.

After ALbert Almoras unfortunate incident in Houston, a expert on these situations weighed in that when you go to a sporting event, you are knowingly putting yourself at risk and there would be no case against the team for injuries sustained from a foul ball etc. they explained that case has been tried many times and does not succeed in a court of law

 

[ricohill]

I want to know why yesterday end zone tickets in the Upper Bowl were $8 and now $10 today? There are 6,000 tickets available. This is the opposite of how dynamic pricing works.

 

[SgtHulka]

I want to know why yesterday end zone tickets in the Upper Bowl were $8 and now $10 today? There are 6,000 tickets available. This is the opposite of how dynamic pricing works.

Did you buy a ticket?

 

[TIMMY]

I want to know why yesterday end zone tickets in the Upper Bowl were $8 and now $10 today? There are 6,000 tickets available. This is the opposite of how dynamic pricing works.

Did you buy a ticket?

If he did would that be boycotting the boycott? :think:

 

[CaliRdBrd]

How's the vibe in the "new" arena?

 

[MarchArchPod]

How's the vibe in the "new" arena?

That Larry Lyons must use the same cups my daughter does....because only her sippy cup will work on those cupholders.

That being said, new seats are comfortable, much better than the old ones. Railings are nice, and honestly, just in general, arena looks pretty good.

 

[Adunk33]

How's the vibe in the "new" arena?

Noticeably different. Student section being split into two did a lot for the energy of the building. Hopefully they continue to show!

 

[Phantom]

How's the vibe in the "new" arena?

Noticeably different. Student section being split into two did a lot for the energy of the building. Hopefully they continue to show!

I wasn't there but THAT was noticeable on the radio and video.

Creating that energy & noise on both ends of the floor is great. It was even more great that the students stayed for the whole game, and stood, jumped around and were enthused and loud. As this moves forward you can even get the two sections playing off each other, "who's louder than who?" type of shit, and a lot of back & forth chants to maximize their presence.

Ya see students? It's NOT difficult to do

They also saw a very fun, entertaining game, and a win. Hopefully that sparks some excitement and they keep coming back - without the need for free jerseys to entice them. Students are where the energy and vibe all starts. The rest of the arena, and most importantly the players, feed off of it.

 

[Loyl2u]

From the game notes for tonight:

Floor Access After Games
- To improve safety and eliminate liability, court access will no longer be available after games. We will continue to offer post-game events with the coaches and players on the concourse throughout the season.

--In short, one of the more unique things we did for kids is over. Too bad because it's one of those rare things that we did that actually fed in to creating long term fans from kids getting the chance to connect with the players on a personal level after the games.

Did we have this insane run of children getting hurt throwing the ball around for 10 min after games? This is a lame rule, I get the whole liability and safety thing, but Illinois State is also coming off as the fun police.

Not that I ever saw. Mostly, I just saw pictures, and a lot of smiles.

Like you, I totally understand ISU not wanting to shoulder any more liability than necessary in today's litigious world, but I still hate seeing this unique practice go by the wayside. Certainly sucks for the kids.

Folks, we are talking about a university that hosts 21,000 students 24/7. There are a million higher liability concerns than kids after a game down on the floor at an organized, well staffed sporting event. The Athletic Dept has simply determined that it is preferable not to have individuals, except for court side ticket holders, have access to court side. The newly installed barriers at the bottom of many of the aisles and the restriction on entry through the tunnel from donor rooms announced in the email the day before the first home game shows that these were previously

It is the Athletic Dept’s responsibility to weigh the impact on fans/donors when they reduce/eliminate convenience and involvement and they have hopefully assessed the impact. My complaint is that we just finished a complete reseating process that took months and not one word was said about such actions. I know of individuals who used the ramp to donor rooms and seats nearby to ease their ability to climb stairs & access restrooms, etc.. These types of changes in SOP should have been shared with ticket holders before seat selection. In fact there are aisles that go no where- barrier at the bottom and wall at the top??

 

[TIMMY]

Did we have this insane run of children getting hurt throwing the ball around for 10 min after games? This is a lame rule, I get the whole liability and safety thing, but Illinois State is also coming off as the fun police.

Not that I ever saw. Mostly, I just saw pictures, and a lot of smiles.

Like you, I totally understand ISU not wanting to shoulder any more liability than necessary in today's litigious world, but I still hate seeing this unique practice go by the wayside. Certainly sucks for the kids.

Folks, we are talking about a university that hosts 21,000 students 24/7. There are a million higher liability concerns than kids after a game down on the floor at an organized, well staffed sporting event. The Athletic Dept has simply determined that it is preferable not to have individuals, except for court side ticket holders, have access to court side. The newly installed barriers at the bottom of many of the aisles and the restriction on entry through the tunnel from donor rooms announced in the email the day before the first home game shows that these were previously

It is the Athletic Dept’s responsibility to weigh the impact on fans/donors when they reduce/eliminate convenience and involvement and they have hopefully assessed the impact. My complaint is that we just finished a complete reseating process that took months and not one word was said about such actions. I know of individuals who used the ramp to donor rooms and seats nearby to ease their ability to climb stairs & access restrooms, etc.. These types of changes in SOP should have been shared with ticket holders before seat selection. In fact there are aisles that go no where- barrier at the bottom and wall at the top??

The aisles that go nowhere. I saw that in the corners you couldn't go up. The barriers at the bottom are on wheels right? Even so I'm surprised the fire department would let that fly. If you had to empty that place fast, down and then out seems logical.

 

[MarchArchPod]

Any of you business owners out there, here is an idea if you want to do a promotion with Illinois State basketball at Redbird Arena.....Cupholder Adaptors.....You would make a lot of fans happy and be remembered as the business that made Larry's cupholders useable

 

[Phantom]

 

[ChiRedbirdfan]

Another thought regarding liability issues. I've seen a lot of times that there will be language on the back of the ticket or in the fine print digitally where the person who purchases the ticket assumes liability. I've seen it most commonly with baseball where bats and balls fly into the stands on the regular. It covers the team so they don't face litigation. Often times if a major issue happens, the team will reach out to the injured person directly with memorabilia, or free tickets, etc.

I assume since a majority of the people who attend games are season ticket holders- its too late to get that messaging on their tickets.

A good lawyer gets passed the "waiver" pretty easily.

After ALbert Almoras unfortunate incident in Houston, a expert on these situations weighed in that when you go to a sporting event, you are knowingly putting yourself at risk and there would be no case against the team for injuries sustained from a foul ball etc. they explained that case has been tried many times and does not succeed in a court of law

Stadiums still responsible to provide a safe environment and stadiums/teams (and their liability insurers) routinely make various liability payments.