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Based off NSU coach's post game remarks, it seems very possible that Thomas was the only person who heard this alleged slur. Coach Jones said that Thomas is the one who informed him that the fan said the slur. Jones said he then went to tell the ref and attempted to confront the fan. It sounds like the flow of information was from Thomas to Coach to ref. As a ref, of course the immediate response is to apologize, what else are you going to say? I don't think this is going to go anywhere. I do not think there is anyone who can corroborate Thomas' accusation unless a nearby fan heard it and comes forward. It seems evident that neither the refs nor any other player on the court heard it. This is a real mess and I think the University made a good statement, although I wish it could've come sooner. They need to protect themselves from a lawsuit, so there is not a whole lot more they were able to say.
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Correction: Jones did claim the referee heard what he said. Interesting.
 
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Buckle up. The ESPN article is on the front page of ESPN.com. The player and coach will probably end up on Good Morning America and CNN at this rate…

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They should wait. Their have been sports incidents recently where the university has investigated and determined the player lied about the racial slur. The volleyball incident is the one I'm talking about right now. This is very serious and you can't ruin people's reputations without an investigation first
 
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Correction: Jones did claim the referee heard what he said. Interesting.
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Yep. Someone needs to ask the ref what, if anything, was actually heard. ISU should have been on this last night. The Valley should step in and interview the crew. And then, let everyone involved know what the refs actually heard.

Transparency. Hmmm, what a concept.
 
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I appreciate the article from WGLT and the statement from the university. I have no doubt ISU will do a full investigation into this, including interviewing the refs to get their statement of what they actually heard. IF the refs confirm they heard a racial slur from these fans, I have no doubt they will be banned from all future events (just as the fan from the Jamar Smiley incident) and ISU will put out this statement.

Regarding the confrontation between coach Pedon and their coach, this is 100% the responsibility of the refs. They screwed this up. IF it is true that the refs heard the slur, they should have called their coach and coach Pedon on the floor together and told them what happened at the same time. If they had done this, I'm 100% confident coach Pedon would have been just as upset as their coach. Instead, the ref tells their coach about a racial slur, their coach goes off on the fan and gets upset (which I fully understand and would feel the same) and coach Pedon is standing by his bench and can only see the fact that their coach is screaming and running onto the court and the refs aren't calling a technical on him for this. If I'm coach Pedon, with what he was aware of at that time, I would be upset and yelling at the refs, telling them to give their coach a technical.

When King Rice went into the ISU stands to physically attack the fan that called Jamar Smiley a racial slur, I 100% had King's back on that and many ISU fans would have done the same thing if they heard what came out of that ISU fan's mouth. In the same respect, if it is true that the ref told their coach that one of our fans called his player a racial slur, I have no problem at all with him being upset or the way he acted. Again, this comes back to the refs for the way they handled this situation.
 
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Yep. Someone needs to ask the ref what, if anything, was actually heard. ISU should have been on this last night. The Valley should step in and interview the crew. And then, let everyone involved know what the refs actually heard.

Transparency. Hmmm, what a concept.
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Yep, if the ref can come forward in an interview and say that he absolutely heard it, then that pretty much settles it. If he can't, that casts a significant amount of doubt, especially since the replay doesn't appear to show any visible reaction from either ref.
 
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They should wait. Their have been sports incidents recently where the university has investigated and determined the player lied about the racial slur. The volleyball incident is the one I'm talking about right now. This is very serious and you can't ruin people's reputations without an investigation first
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If I’m the fan and I know I didn’t say anything then I’m consulting an attorney. I’m surprised they haven’t been doxxed yet.
 
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I never use the word. That said, and this will likely not be popular take, but until POC stop using the word non-stop as an adjective, noun, verb, pronoun, etc how can anyone take situations like this seriously?
I played in a rec league a few years ago and the N-bomb was dropped every 3 minutes. So much so, that the ref had to stop play and threaten technicals.
 
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This won't be received well by many on the internet, but an apology and statement from Coach Jones should be forthcoming. His conduct on X crossed a line.
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Yeah, he should have confined his statement to the presser and not the X.
 
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TBS_20 said:
They should wait. Their have been sports incidents recently where the university has investigated and determined the player lied about the racial slur. The volleyball incident is the one I'm talking about right now. This is very serious and you can't ruin people's reputations without an investigation first
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I cringe I used the wrong there. That's the real crime on all of this
 
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A very well-articulated statement. As many have speculated on this board since last night, the key word here is misunderstanding as it pertains to Pedon's reaction. It is unfortunate that this likely won't be good enough for those who made up their mind last night and decided that his reaction could only be a reflection of a supposed attitude toward African-American players and nothing else, but that is out of his control. Ryan Pedon is very clearly a man of high character.

It is also unfortunate that the NSU coach chose or was advised not to give a postgame press conference and instead opted for his hometown newspaper and Twitter. There should be fines from a school's conference when that happens. It is unacceptable.
 
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