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This is brutal. Losing your best players every year will cause chronic mediocrity. NDSU and then everyone else in one big scrum. Doesn't help either when former coaches recruit players to where they go, SMU, NM State. You will also lose young talent, ie freshmen/sophs when you keep bringing in 24 year old grad students for one year. People say the portal giveth and taketh but its more taketh when you're FCS
I thought we had battled the portal to a draw or better until this. It's hard to say at this point. We don't really know what we have in QB Annexstad and the others. It's also not over for the '22 season. There are still a lot of players in the portal and many of them are just now coming to the realization that they may not get the type of offers they want so it's time to look at safety schools.
I thought the entries to the portal would stop once the 2nd semester got underway. They slowed but they didn't stop. I'm expecting another uptick of entries when spring practices are completed. If you're working with the 3rd team in practice, it's an indication that you might not be getting a lot of playing time in the fall. Also some grad transfers will enter as they graduate in May. Bottom line - This ain't over. Remain Relentless.
 

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Hopefully relentless as SMU who apparently loves our entire defense. Eventually Coach Hall will run out of players he's familiar with. I hope.
 

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Nice overview of this prospect ... 3 star from FL, played in 4A school .. FL is similar to IL with 8 classes. Was ranked 12th best DE in FL heading into SR season. Hasn't really made a mark at WSU yet after 3 seasons .... who knows why. If he can play ... lets bring him in.

Marquise ... Redbird Nation loves defense. Spack is legit FBS defensive coach ... he puts people into the FBS and NFL. he's taken guys from FBS and then put them in the NFL. Spack to a 4th stringer guy just like you from U of I down the road ... BJ Bello. had him for just 1 year as a 5th year SR in 2016. He has been in the NFL ever since ... 4th string in Big 10 thru ISU to the NFL. And he was our hybrid LB/DE .. same size as you.

Come to ISU ... we know defense.
 

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We are the new minor league development program for all FBS programs - hey go to ISU for 2 years and make a mark then transfer with no consequences. Looks like we'll be poaching D2 programs more to play same game
 

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We are the new minor league development program for all FBS programs - hey go to ISU for 2 years and make a mark then transfer with no consequences. Looks like we'll be poaching D2 programs more to play same game
And "poaching" or "mining" FBS programs for guys who have been shuffled off to the bench w/o getting a chance to play, such as Ty Deforest, Brandon Simon, Zach Annexstad, Shannon Reid, and from our past like Pierre Rembert and Tre Roberson and others whose names I can't recall off the top of my head. It stinks, but FCS programs are gonna figger it out eventually and make it work, sort of okay, to our advantage, hopefully.
 

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We are the new minor league development program for all FBS programs - hey go to ISU for 2 years and make a mark then transfer with no consequences. Looks like we'll be poaching D2 programs more to play same game
Minnesota (QB Zack Annexstad), Indiana (DB - Larry Tracy III) and Kentucky (OT- Jake Pope) are not D-II programs.

Losing quality players to FBS programs will be a problem but it is not the apocalypse it is being made out to be. We'll lose players and we'll get players. Keep in mind the advantage we do have. The transfer portal is overflowing with players. Only a few FCS players are good enough to start for FBS teams but tons of FBS players can come in and help a FCS team.

Some people think that all the best FCS players will move up and only the worst FBS players will move down but again that's not so.
Zack Annexstad won the starting job at Minnesota as a true freshman in 2018. He started 7 games and then lost the starting job due to injury. His replacement, Morgan Tanner, looked good and he never gave the job back, but the competition was always close. When Morgan decided to stay at Minnesota for a 6th season in '22, Annexstad looked for a new school for his final two seasons. I've seen him now and he's an outstanding passer and his mobility is better than expected although it cannot be fully evaluated because the defense is not allowed to tackle him.

I can also remember when we took a transfer LB'er from Illinois. fourthandshort questioned his value at the time because he wasn't a starter at Illinois. Well he probably would have become a starter if he had stayed at Illinois, but he decided to go for the sure thing by becoming a Redbird. Bello had an outstanding year with the Redbirds in 2016 with 72 tackles, 9.5TFLs and 6 sacks. After that Bello was in the NFL for 5 years. If that wasn't enough Bello was part of a group that made a 3 million dollar commitment to the IPF.
Not too shabby for a guy that didn't start in the Big 10. Annexstad and Bello are the type of players we're looking for. There are more out there.
 

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And we had Shannon Reid who came from TN and voila - now at SMU after he got chance to showcase for the world
 

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And "poaching" or "mining" FBS programs for guys who have been shuffled off to the bench w/o getting a chance to play, such as Ty Deforest, Brandon Simon, Zach Annexstad, Shannon Reid, and from our past like Pierre Rembert and Tre Roberson and others whose names I can't recall off the top of my head. It stinks, but FCS programs are gonna figger it out eventually and make it work, sort of okay, to our advantage, hopefully.
using players from before transfer portal not really fair cmoparison as o what its like today - fcs at bigger disadvantage than fbs
 

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ISU has offered QB General Booty from Tyler Junior College where Brady Davis is the QB coach. Brady has been very high on this kid and he had a great season last year. Only has 2 (or potentially 3 counting Presbyterian) recent offers from ISU and ISU blue. Looks like he had offers from Liberty, ULM, Yale, Nicholls State, and McNeese State prior to his season at TJC. Would be interesting if he came to ISU and I am all for it. Probably would be #2 on the depth chart with Jackson potentially passing him once he returns to full form.
 

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ISU has offered QB General Booty from Tyler Junior College where Brady Davis is the QB coach. Brady has been very high on this kid and he had a great season last year. Only has 2 (or potentially 3 counting Presbyterian) recent offers from ISU and ISU blue. Looks like he had offers from Liberty, ULM, Yale, Nicholls State, and McNeese State prior to his season at TJC. Would be interesting if he came to ISU and I am all for it. Probably would be #2 on the depth chart with Jackson potentially passing him once he returns to full form.
Yale recruits JC's??? Wow.
 

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ISU has offered QB General Booty from Tyler Junior College where Brady Davis is the QB coach. Brady has been very high on this kid and he had a great season last year. Only has 2 (or potentially 3 counting Presbyterian) recent offers from ISU and ISU blue. Looks like he had offers from Liberty, ULM, Yale, Nicholls State, and McNeese State prior to his season at TJC. Would be interesting if he came to ISU and I am all for it. Probably would be #2 on the depth chart with Jackson potentially passing him once he returns to full form.
I'm already on record as wanting another QB. For the first scrimmage of the spring both Waring and Rittenhouse were sidelined. That left just Zack Annexstad, Timothy Dorsey and Patrick Brennan at QB and only the first two are on scholarship.
 
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