Snowbird Classic (2/16-2/18)

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It is finally GAMEWEEK! The Redbirds will alternate between St. Thomas and SLU for the first 4 games of the season. I think we have a lot of talent with the position players and I am excited for the season to get underway. I'm not sure what to expect with the pitching staff. IMO, Coach Holm needs to start making some progress or his seat is going to get hot. Hopefully the new practice facilities will help in the early going.

2/16 - 11 am - St. Thomas
2/16 - 5 pm - SLU
2/17 - 10 am - St. Thomas
2/18 - TBA - SLU

All games will be available on FloBaseball for a $29.99 monthly subscription. It appears this will probably be the only series on Flo. FloBaseball Signup | Live Baseball Streams & Premium Access - FloBaseball
 
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Tyler Herron gets his first start in his first game as a Redbird. JUCO transfer from Parkland College. Catcher was one of our more shaky positions last year. Nick Strong is the returner at the position with Herron and Wabash Valley College (JUCO) transfer Daniel Contreras being the newcomers. It looks like the rest of the starting lineup are returners. Cameron Mabee gets the start on the mound. No live stats so X will be the place to follow along.
 
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Always good to win the first one. Nice to see the players had their hitting shoes on today. A whopping 18 runs in an 18-11 win. Bring on the Ugly Blue Imps aka Billikens tonight.
 
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Baseball vs St. Thomas on 2/16/2024 - Box Score - Illinois State University Athletics

The official box score of Baseball vs St. Thomas on 2/16/2024
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Official box score linked. Home runs for Rabin, Pacella, and Morris. 4 stolen bases and 1 caught stealing. Looks like it will be another aggressive year on the base paths.

Was surprised to see Sokolove with an error. Per the play-by-play: "B Richartz tripled, scored on an error by cf, 2 RBI, unearned (1-0 B); B Vujovich scored, unearned; M Gottschalk scored, unearned." That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It reads like the batter tripled but scored due to what I presume to be a throwing error by Sokolove. Somehow all 3 runs were unearned despite it being the only error in the inning. I don't think all of those things can be true at once.

Hopefully Mabee has a better go against Arkansas State. Maybe the hitters just caught lightning in a bottle.
 
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Live stats are available for game 2. Contreras getting his first start as a Bird. True freshman Luke Stulga also getting his first start.
 
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Baseball vs St. Thomas on 2/16/2024 - Box Score - Illinois State University Athletics

The official box score of Baseball vs St. Thomas on 2/16/2024
goredbirds.com goredbirds.com
Official box score linked. Home runs for Rabin, Pacella, and Morris. 4 stolen bases and 1 caught stealing. Looks like it will be another aggressive year on the base paths.

Was surprised to see Sokolove with an error. Per the play-by-play: "B Richartz tripled, scored on an error by cf, 2 RBI, unearned (1-0 B); B Vujovich scored, unearned; M Gottschalk scored, unearned." That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It reads like the batter tripled but scored due to what I presume to be a throwing error by Sokolove. Somehow all 3 runs were unearned despite it being the only error in the inning. I don't think all of those things can be true at once.

Hopefully Mabee has a better go against Arkansas State. Maybe the hitters just caught lightning in a bottle.
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All I can think of is the error "cancelled" the third out of the inning, so the subsequent runs came after what should have been third out? Not sure that's how it would be scored "by the book".
 
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All I can think of is the error "cancelled" the third out of the inning, so the subsequent runs came after what should have been third out? Not sure that's how it would be scored "by the book".
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Yes, that makes sense if it was a fielding error, but the batter was credited with a triple. That would mean only 1 run was unearned. Very weird.
 
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ISU lost to SLU 8-13. SLU was picked to win the A-10 so they are a decent team. I'm excited about the offense but worried about the pitching in early going. Especially because our top 2 starters got lit up. The SLU/UST game was also very high scoring but I don't know. We lost many games last year because of pitching. Rabin homered for a second time on the day.
 
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good point. Weird
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Yes, in the play-by-play listing - it is noted three runs unearned. However, when you look at the pitching stats in the box score - St. Thomas pitching gave up 18 runs - 17 earned. Thus, only one run was unearned - which sounds appropriate for the description. Person typing out the play-by-play part, did not know what they were doing.
 
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Yes, in the play-by-play listing - it is noted three runs unearned. However, when you look at the pitching stats in the box score - St. Thomas pitching gave up 18 runs - 17 earned. Thus, only one run was unearned - which sounds appropriate for the description. Person typing out the play-by-play part, did not know what they were doing.
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We were on defense though. Husak gave up 3 runs with 0 earned. Sokolove was the CF with the error.
 
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We were on defense though. Husak gave up 3 runs with 0 earned. Sokolove was the CF with the error.
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I didn't go look at it, but were there two outs in the inning? It is weird the credited a triple and then an error and and on the same play every one scored.

If the error was on attempting to make the third out of the inning, and then runs scored on plays after that then all the runs would be unearned as you have to assume the inning would have ended. But it sounds like this was all one play.
 
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I didn't go look at it, but were there two outs in the inning? It is weird the credited a triple and then an error and and on the same play every one scored.

If the error was on attempting to make the third out of the inning, and then runs scored on plays after that then all the runs would be unearned as you have to assume the inning would have ended. But it sounds like this was all one play.
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Yes, there were two outs. Ultimately, I think it was scored incorrectly. I'm assuming what happened was a triple and a throwing error on Sokolove which should have resulted in 1 unearned run (since the other 2 scored regardless). Translation: Triple with throwing error on Sokolove - 1 unearned run, 2 earned runs.

The only other possibility I know of is if Sokolove missed a catchable ball resulting in a little league home run and all 3 runs were unearned. Seems implausible with only one error on the play. If that were the case, then it was incorrectly ruled a triple. Translation: Error on the catch by Sokolove - 3 unearned runs.
 
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