NIL and the Redbirds

[Adunk33]

Howard Fleming cashes in with some pretty cool merch.
h3apparel.club

 

[Adunk33]

The only other Redbird NIL stuff I've seen is a handful of athletes from Football, Baseball, and Volleyball if memory serves, have signed with Barstool Sports. I don't know what those sponsorships entail other than merch.

 

[Redbirdwarrior]

Fun question:

If this would have existed for the last 50 years, what Redbird, across all sports, would have made the most from their NIL swag and college sponsorships?

I feel that Osiris Eldridge, who had national appeal and was among the best players in the country, would have CASHED IN. But also on that list:

Boomer Grigsby (Name alone sells product)
Cameron Siskowick
Devontae Harris
Tre Roberson
Jackie Carmichael
L-Rob
Paris Lee
Paul DeJong

And, of course, Doug Collins (Just barely meets the 50 year cutoff

 

[MadBird]

Fun question:

If this would have existed for the last 50 years, what Redbird, across all sports, would have made the most from their NIL swag and college sponsorships?

I feel that Osiris Eldridge, who had national appeal and was among the best players in the country, would have CASHED IN. But also on that list:

Boomer Grigsby (Name alone sells product)
Cameron Siskowick
Devontae Harris
Tre Roberson
Jackie Carmichael
L-Rob
Paris Lee
Paul DeJong

And, of course, Doug Collins (Just barely meets the 50 year cutoff

Kevin Glenn, Luke Drone, Dusty Burk
Roger Powell

 

[fdbird83]

Rick Lamb and Hank Cornley teaming up together with some butt brothers apparel. The old timers on here will understand.

 

[IHateWSU]

Kobe Buffalomeat

 

[Redbird222]

Rico Hill, Dan Muller and Aisha Pratt

 

[TBS_20]

I know this is probably against the rules but in realty who is going to know -- what is stopping a big university from paying their big time athletes like $50,000 per year, maybe $100,000 for stars. Just do it under the table by giving the money to a dealership or apparel company to distribute. Seems like the NIL is easily manipulated.

 

[DWRedbird]

I know this is probably against the rules but in realty who is going to know -- what is stopping a big university from paying their big time athletes like $50,000 per year, maybe $100,000 for stars. Just do it under the table by giving the money to a dealership or apparel company to distribute. Seems like the NIL is easily manipulated.

While technically against the rules something like this was likely already happening and it would take an in depth investigation to figure out and most schools investigate themselves, so... That said schools already technically can give money to athlete directly under the guise of education expense so I don't think they need to do anything as cloak and dagger as giving money to another company to give back to their players.

 

[MadBird]

While technically against the rules something like this was likely already happening and it would take an in depth investigation to figure out and most schools investigate themselves, so... That said schools already technically can give money to athlete directly under the guise of education expense so I don't think they need to do anything as cloak and dagger as giving money to another company to give back to their players.

Well, where do the schools get their money? You tell some big donor don't give us the money so we can slip it under the table to the athlete or back to the donor to give to the athlete, just give it directly to the athlete. Agree something like this is prolly already going on all over.

 

[Bird Friend]

I know this is probably against the rules but in realty who is going to know -- what is stopping a big university from paying their big time athletes like $50,000 per year, maybe $100,000 for stars. Just do it under the table by giving the money to a dealership or apparel company to distribute. Seems like the NIL is easily manipulated.

I'm guessing nobody in realty is going to know. It's not like they can give them a house without somebody noticing.

 

[RBII]

I'm guessing nobody in realty is going to know. It's not like they can give them a house without somebody noticing.

There are those who say Duke did just that with Zion Williamson

 

[Redbirdwarrior]

I know this is probably against the rules but in realty who is going to know -- what is stopping a big university from paying their big time athletes like $50,000 per year, maybe $100,000 for stars. Just do it under the table by giving the money to a dealership or apparel company to distribute. Seems like the NIL is easily manipulated.

As has been pointed out, welcome to BCS athletics for the last... 30 years... longer? Watch Blue Chips. While kind of outlandish, that is more or less exactly how it goes.


College wants wins
Coach recruits players
Players say no
Coach goes to school to relay that
School goes to "boosters"
"Boosters" buy cars, houses, vacations, give do nothing jobs for recruits
Coach asks again
Players say yes

Think of every top college MBB and FB player in the country NOT named McDermott over the last 25 years. Every single one of them had 5 to 7 figures coming in before they ever graduated high school from "boosters" either in cash and product or some kind of favor.

The NCAA tried and failed to hedge this. So now it is a free for all. What the NCAA SHOULD have done is doubled sit out time for transfers, not eliminated it. Now schools like ISU and even NDSU are little more than incubators for major programs who will show up sophomore year with a scholarship and a checkbook and simply buy talent who can transfer and play immediately.


You know who I feel bad for? The kid that isn't getting the million dollars that is the right guard for the million dollar 18 year old golden child. The player that was all state for 4 years in a small high school and only got scholarship offers from 3 schools, none of which will start him. The payment of players has made college sports a superstar first culture and it will fundamentally change the way we see MBB, College Football and even possibly WBB and baseball for decades.

But, I say that very excited to be able to build ISU on NCAA Football and NCAA Basketball 2023 next year...

 

[cubird]

The kid that just announced going to Memphis said he could make more there than the G League. What ever that means....Fed X envelope please

 

[Redbirdwarrior]

G League players make about $40K a year, but to a 17 year old kid from a bad area, $50K ($1000 a week) is huge. What would you do in college if you were getting free education, free housing, free food and got a $1000 check every week?

 

[MadBird]

G League players make about $40K a year, but to a 17 year old kid from a bad area, $50K ($1000 a week) is huge. What would you do in college if you were getting free education, free housing, free food and got a $1000 check every week?

You know, you bring up a good point. Education??? My first reaction was, "yeah, right, who's going to school?" But maybe all of this will have the effect of "keeping" kids in school, if in fact you can make more in school than out, or at least, make more than you have been able to. Guys might be willing to stay in school longer, actually go to school, and delay the often futile effort to cash in with one pro sport or another.

Or not!

 

[Redbirdwarrior]

You know, you bring up a good point. Education??? My first reaction was, "yeah, right, who's going to school?" But maybe all of this will have the effect of "keeping" kids in school, if in fact you can make more in school than out, or at least, make more than you have been able to. Guys might be willing to stay in school longer, actually go to school, and delay the often futile effort to cash in with one pro sport or another.

Or not!

You are going to find out REAL quick who the students are and who the athletes are. The athletes will be the ones getting paid for 2 years then shuffling off to elsewhere, the students will be the ones who stick around regardless of payment.

 

[TIMMY]

G League players make about $40K a year, but to a 17 year old kid from a bad area, $50K ($1000 a week) is huge. What would you do in college if you were getting free education, free housing, free food and got a $1000 check every week?

The Red Lion would still be in business.