Nick Saban on NIL

[DougSutton]

This is a pretty insightful perspective from the top of the food chain on the challenges of NIL. It's interesting how Nick Saban calls out Texas A&M being the No 1 recruiting class and saying they bought "every player" they recruited..

 

[BirdGrad2011]

Without watching A&M spent about $30 million on their football class alone.

 

[BTbird]

That is a good watch, thanks! Also an interesting point on how the transfer portal came about and how the NCAA can't enforce their own rules.

 

[Denali2x]

.... not a very optimistic outlook ... but, unfortunately, sounds 'spot on' ...

 

[Adunk33]

When discussions happen on national sports shows about NIL, about 95% of the time is looking at it for what it means from a P5 college football perspective. NIL really doesn't bother me in that sense because 1.) ISU doesn't swim in the same pool as those guys and 2.) there are what? 75-90 kids on a football team? Does getting one guy really make the difference (sure, the Birds don't make their run without Tre at QB but also what about Marshaun, Cam, James and that stout defense)?

I feel like more conversations need to be had with basketball in mind. Basketball is the sport where you have 13 scholarships, not 100 or whatever to divide however you see fit. Getting two or three studs on an NIL deal would be much more impactful on the court than on the football field. 350ish D1 schools technically are all trying to get the same players. So, when it comes to a school like ISU, who I feel will eventually start being in battles for kids thinking about going to a lower P5 (Nebraska, Penn State, Ole Miss, type schools) that's where we'll see an impact in recruiting where kids make the decisions based on NIL instead of fit or opportunity for success.

Saban makes a good point around the NCAA not being able to enforce their own rules. Admittedly, I do not follow the politics of sports but it feels like the gov has just said to the NCAA, "We're allowing players to make money for themselves. NCAA-Figure out how to make it work."

Saban has bought and will continue to buy players but it sounds like he's doing it in the "right way" and keeping his hands out of it. He'll have discussions with the kids on what Bama can offer academically, athletically, their collective, and then tell them for anything else, get an agent and make what you can. I'm not a fan of FBS football so the NIL doesn't really bother me in that. FCS is just more fun. Kids still playing because they love the game. Plus the playoff format is so much better than the 30 Little Ceasars Hot N Ready Who Gives A Crap Bowls.

 

[FriscoBird90]

Nick liked it better in the days when programs like Alabama could outbid other programs under the table instead of having to try and outbid them above the table. So now he claims 'Bama does it "the right way" and others do it "the wrong way." ["Others": any program that in the age of NIL has the organization and funds to reel in top notch recruits at a similar or greater rate than 'Bama or manages to attract a prized recruit whom Nick believes should prefer Tuscaloosa, AL over any other College Town, USA.]

I agree NIL's weaknesses and ills will soon be revealed, and I share the concerns others have that college football is going to continue sliding down the slope toward things such as a greater divide between "haves" and "have nots" and morphing even more into the NFL's minor league system. However, to paint 'Bama as having clean hands while painting others as having dirty hands is, to some degree, a recruiting tactic on Nick's part.

I also freely admit my bias. I have one child at Arkansas and one at Texas A&M. Nothing better on a football Saturday last season than beating Texas and Alabama, and with rosters full of players most of whom were recruited before NIL as we now know it was a factor. Woo pig sooie! Gig 'em!

 

[BTbird]

When Bama is complaining about the NIL, you know the system is out of whack!

 

[BTbird]

Get out the popcorn!

Deion Sanders and Jimbo Fisher Take on Nick Saban Over "Paying" For Top Recruits

Jimbo Fisher put the screws to Alabama head coach Nick Saban for some of his recent comments regarding pay for play in college football.

www.bleachernation.com

 

[Metamoron]

I have been thinking about something, didn’t really want to start a new thread but it kinda fits here so I will throw it out. With NIL deals now legal, does that affect what conference ISU should be in? My thought is this, let’s say we (ISU and B/N) are able to put together $100K in NIL money. So does Bradley (or UIC or Valpo or Drake or Evansville) and their communities. We will need to spread that money around between BOTH FB and BB. While those hoops only schools only have to spread it out around hoops teams. If NIL becomes a bigger deal in MVC is it more difficult for us to compete?

 

[DougSutton]

Wow, yes @BTbird , definitely time to get the popcorn out!

 

[Bird Friend]

Millionaires in multi-billion $ business arguing over money. Throwing money at the septic tank won’t make the grass any greener.

 

[bombay]

Lane kiffin is getting after him.

 

[BirdGrad2011]

I have been thinking about something, didn’t really want to start a new thread but it kinda fits here so I will throw it out. With NIL deals now legal, does that affect what conference ISU should be in? My thought is this, let’s say we (ISU and B/N) are able to put together $100K in NIL money. So does Bradley (or UIC or Valpo or Drake or Evansville) and their communities. We will need to spread that money around between BOTH FB and BB. While those hoops only schools only have to spread it out around hoops teams. If NIL becomes a bigger deal in MVC is it more difficult for us to compete?

We will be in far better position than UNI or SIU.

 

[Yogi]

I dont trust either one of them they both lie and cheat

 

[CaliRdBrd]

This is a pretty insightful perspective from the top of the food chain on the challenges of NIL. It's interesting how Nick Saban calls out Texas A&M being the No 1 recruiting class and saying they bought "every player" they recruited..

Awfully hypocritical of Saban, and not a great look for him. My guess is ‘Bama (and Saban) has been “buying” players long before NIL existed

 

[Yogi]

my guess is that bama has been buying players since the bear was there

 

[ISU86]

Funny how now the P5s are squabbling amongst each other. As some of them begin to see the reality that they are now the lessors amongst an universe solely consisting of greaters, they do not like the new view.

Iowa AD Gary Barta on current NIL situation: Not sustainable

Iowa AD Gary Barta says he’s a supporter of NIL for student-athletes, as well as a supporter of the NCAA transfer portal. But he says the NIL should be for current student-athletes, not recruits.

www.thegazette.com

 

[fdbird83]

Funny how now the P5s are squabbling amongst each other. As some of them begin to see the reality that they are now the lessors amongst an universe solely consisting of greaters, they do not like the new view.

Iowa AD Gary Barta on current NIL situation: Not sustainable

Iowa AD Gary Barta says he’s a supporter of NIL for student-athletes, as well as a supporter of the NCAA transfer portal. But he says the NIL should be for current student-athletes, not recruits.

www.thegazette.com

 

[fdbird83]

I have no idea how Gary Barta still has a job at Iowa. He has cost the University millions of dollars in lawsuits and just keeps on ticking.
He let one female administrator go, hired a man for the job and then paid him more than what the female was making. Lawsuit.

The Chronicles of Gary Barta

In twelve short years, Gary Barta has blazed a trail of incompetence and destruction the likes of which no other large-scale college athletics program has endured. Look upon his works, ye mighty, and despair.

www.goiowaawesome.com

Gary Barta explains decision to reinstate women’s swimming & diving

In September, team members filed a lawsuit against Barta and the department citing Title XI violations. Months later, a federal judge granted an injunction that forced the athletics department to stop any plans of cutting women’s swimming and diving, but that injunction was only temporary.How...

www.kcrg.com

Gary Barta should be fired.

Gary Barta and the no good, very bad, discrimination lawsuits.

www.offtackleempire.com

 

[dpdoughbird06]

my guess is that bama has been buying players since the bear was there

Read Junction Boys: guess confirmed. In the book he was buying them to the point where A&M was banned from Cottton Bowl for a year or two; I’m sure Bear continued to buy players when he moved on to Bama.

And now a half-century later his two schools are sniping at each other about…buying players.