Lusk's contract

[Hamdonger]

Surprised this hasn't been brought up, but they amended Lusk's contract.
http://417-sports.com/index.php/blog/207-contract-reset-clause-for-ncaa-tournament-trip-removed-from-paul-lusk-s-contract-at-missouri-state#.WnuuHbwyHjI.twitter

The thing that I wonder...if you amend a legal, binding contract...don't all parties have to sign the re-amendment for it to be valid?? Obviously, the writing is on the wall but no way as a coach I'd sign the (this one in particular) new amendment after you already have a valid binding contract in place. Unless they threatened to fire Paul on the spot if he didn't sign.

I don't know, just seems weird.

Seems like Lusk gets trashed here - he's definitely underperformed but I don't think he's a terrible coach.

 

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

He is a horrible coach and this pretty much means he's getting fired at season end. Good. MSU should be near the top 25 at worst with a probable first round pick on their team. He's a pretty good recruiter but cant coach.

 

[ThisIsTheLineup]

I think at this point, Missouri State is willing to cover all legal expenses if this is not valid.

This is 100% writing on the wall - he is done.

 

[DWRedbird]

Surprised this hasn't been brought up, but they amended Lusk's contract.
http://417-sports.com/index.php/blog/207-contract-reset-clause-for-ncaa-tournament-trip-removed-from-paul-lusk-s-contract-at-missouri-state#.WnuuHbwyHjI.twitter

The thing that I wonder...if you amend a legal, binding contract...don't all parties have to sign the re-amendment for it to be valid?? Obviously, the writing is on the wall but no way as a coach I'd sign the (this one in particular) new amendment after you already have a valid binding contract in place. Unless they threatened to fire Paul on the spot if he didn't sign.

I don't know, just seems weird.

Seems like Lusk gets trashed here - he's definitely underperformed but I don't think he's a terrible coach.

In my opinion, he's not a good head coach right now. His teams have been average in their best years, and he seems to have a penchant for taking talented teams and coaching them directly into the middle of the conference. He doesn't make good in game adjustments, and doesn't seem to pre-game plan well. His offensive sets make ours look amazing, and defensively he doesn't ever seem to know how to react when a team changes up their offensive plan. I think he is a good talent scout, and is an above average recruiter, but I'm not sure he knows how to best utilize talent once he gets it there. I think he would benefit greatly from going the Porter Moser route and learning from a really good head coach for a few years and then becoming a head coach again.

 

[HT59]

Surprised this hasn't been brought up, but they amended Lusk's contract.
http://417-sports.com/index.php/blog/207-contract-reset-clause-for-ncaa-tournament-trip-removed-from-paul-lusk-s-contract-at-missouri-state#.WnuuHbwyHjI.twitter

The thing that I wonder...if you amend a legal, binding contract...don't all parties have to sign the re-amendment for it to be valid?? Obviously, the writing is on the wall but no way as a coach I'd sign the (this one in particular) new amendment after you already have a valid binding contract in place. Unless they threatened to fire Paul on the spot if he didn't sign.

I don't know, just seems weird.

Seems like Lusk gets trashed here - he's definitely underperformed but I don't think he's a terrible coach.

In my opinion, he's not a good head coach right now. His teams have been average in their best years, and he seems to have a penchant for taking talented teams and coaching them directly into the middle of the conference. He doesn't make good in game adjustments, and doesn't seem to pre-game plan well. His offensive sets make ours look amazing, and defensively he doesn't ever seem to know how to react when a team changes up their offensive plan. I think he is a good talent scout, and is an above average recruiter, but I'm not sure he knows how to best utilize talent once he gets it there. I think he would benefit greatly from going the Porter Moser route and learning from a really good head coach for a few years and then becoming a head coach again.

:text-+1:

 

[Hamdonger]

In my opinion, he's not a good head coach right now. His teams have been average in their best years, and he seems to have a penchant for taking talented teams and coaching them directly into the middle of the conference. He doesn't make good in game adjustments, and doesn't seem to pre-game plan well. His offensive sets make ours look amazing, and defensively he doesn't ever seem to know how to react when a team changes up their offensive plan. I think he is a good talent scout, and is an above average recruiter, but I'm not sure he knows how to best utilize talent once he gets it there. I think he would benefit greatly from going the Porter Moser route and learning from a really good head coach for a few years and then becoming a head coach again.

That's probably a pretty good roundup.

It's funny who converts into a good coach and who doesn't. Some of the lesser players make the best coaches and vice versa. Paul was one heck of a high school player (about 2800 points, top 5 or 10 all-time in Illinois) with the family chops (his Dad is legendary down south) and a really good career at SIU. Just a super heady intelligent player. You'd think all that would translate.

Sometimes it doesn't.

Wish the guy well.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

If Muller were measured on the hype for him and his players on here, he too would be viewed as an under achiever. Not a criticism of Muller. Just recognizing that perception does necessarily always match reality. Maybe some of that applies to Lusk as well.

 

[bb fan]

It seems funny to me that some folks are knocking Coach Muller. You really don't need "perception" or what someone thinks is "hype". For Muller to be considered bad, or mediocre, or overrated right now just dumb message board diatribe. The guy won the league last year, had a record breaking number of wins per season, and was the Coach of the Year. Sheesh. Muller would have to kill somebody right now to lose his job. Regardless of what you think of him. Does not sound like underachieving to me, at least looking at the facts. We shall see how the season goes, but heck, I am at least willing to give the guy one year after the year he had last year before throwing him under the bus. The Debbie Downers are rather entertaining here

 

[Reggie Redbird]

In my opinion, he's not a good head coach right now. His teams have been average in their best years, and he seems to have a penchant for taking talented teams and coaching them directly into the middle of the conference. He doesn't make good in game adjustments, and doesn't seem to pre-game plan well. His offensive sets make ours look amazing, and defensively he doesn't ever seem to know how to react when a team changes up their offensive plan. I think he is a good talent scout, and is an above average recruiter, but I'm not sure he knows how to best utilize talent once he gets it there. I think he would benefit greatly from going the Porter Moser route and learning from a really good head coach for a few years and then becoming a head coach again.

That's probably a pretty good roundup.

It's funny who converts into a good coach and who doesn't. Some of the lesser players make the best coaches and vice versa. Paul was one heck of a high school player (about 2800 points, top 5 or 10 all-time in Illinois) with the family chops (his Dad is legendary down south) and a really good career at SIU. Just a super heady intelligent player. You'd think all that would translate.

Sometimes it doesn't.

Wish the guy well.

Sometimes when you’re a talented player you don’t have to work as much to develop versus a lesser player having to learn teach you ways to make themselves better. That does not mean talented players can’t become good coaches. That happens to you. I think the issue is with helping people develop.

Also there is a huge difference in being a good recruiter or a good strategy coach as an assistant and being able to put it together as a head coach. Robin Pingeton Was able to assemble and manage a good staff that helped her succeed here and at Missouri.

Time will tell if Dan is a great coach or someone, like Jank who is good enough to make the conf tourney final and NIT but not get over the hump. Until then, we don’t have to worry about Dan taking a good P5 job unless he has a stint somewhere else, like Jank went to SMU as an asst.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

It seems funny to me that some folks are knocking Coach Muller. You really don't need "perception" or what someone thinks is "hype". For Muller to be considered bad, or mediocre, or overrated right now just dumb message board diatribe. The guy won the league last year, had a record breaking number of wins per season, and was the Coach of the Year. Sheesh. Muller would have to kill somebody right now to lose his job. Regardless of what you think of him. Does not sound like underachieving to me, at least looking at the facts. We shall see how the season goes, but heck, I am at least willing to give the guy one year after the year he had last year before throwing him under the bus. The Debbie Downers are rather entertaining here

That was my point. I don’t feel Muller is underachieving my expectations. But he would be if I measured him based on others overhyped opinion of him. I think Dan is doing fine, but I’m not rating him based on an irrational exuberance baseline metric.

 

[Adunk33]

Something I was reminded of recently, Mo State obviously loses a lot for next year. But they currently have a transfers from Indiana and Xavier waiting in the wings. I wonder if they bolt if Lusk gets canned?

 

[IHateWSU]

Something I was reminded of recently, Mo State obviously loses a lot for next year. But they currently have a transfers from Indiana and Xavier waiting in the wings. I wonder if they bolt if Lusk gets canned?

Or start doing cart wheels!