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Eh ... i think the BEST case scenario is they cancel all nonconf games. I think more likely scenario is they postpone fall season until spring and figure out those campus logistics. Worst case is cancel 2020 fall season for all sports and hope for best with winter sports.

As for Illini .. i think our DL will give them fits and our DB group will hold their own. Offensively, our OL should do ok but not feeling good about our offense ... way too much youth for early season FBS game. But we could probably hold our own and compete, but will really struggle to move the ball or score. I see game like 21 - 10.
Great analysis, 4th. This sucks because I think we've got a legit shot at taking down the Illini. They will not outclass us the way Iowa did a few years back.

Here's an AP news analysis of the return of college sports. In a nutshell, they say it will trigger off of a return to normal on-campus operations. Schools are definitely motivated financially to get their students back for the fall. Would you send your son or daughter, though? I wouldn't, knowing what I know today. Events are moving so quickly...

https://apnews.com/310d4643e316e409da185b988faa181f

I think we will/would do well in trenches and compete .. but I think they are starting to finally figure things out under Lovie. But without a legit offense, I'm thinking our chance of winning is maybe 25/75. Illini is better than NIU .. we'll need a few breaks to win that game.

I would struggle to send my kids to campus based on what we know today. But we'll see how it goes from here.

Especially if they are living in the dorms. Living in such tight quarters is something that needs to change in the new era. Obviously that won't be an easy fix.
 

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Total Red said:
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Thing i will miss most IF ... they cancel college football this fall ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WO6_IiZ_WI


Let's never speak of this again.

I did my research .... :roll: :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va0Ug1t5d-Q&list=PLRSdjtZL3loAnlDn0nc6T_tEAZfv86lOb&index=63
 

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Meanwhile, Purdue announces it will re-open it's campus this fall.
Purdue University, for its part, intends to accept students on campus in typical numbers this fall, sober about the certain problems that the COVID-19 virus represents, but determined not to surrender helplessly to those difficulties but to tackle and manage them aggressively and creatively.

https://www.purdue.edu/president/messages/campus-community/2020/2004-fall-message.php

I saw an interview of Purdue's president today. During a wide-ranging discussion about the difficulties involved in accepting students back on campus in typical numbers, he was asked about athletics. He said, paraphrasing here, that Purdue athletics was self-supporting, had it's own special problems with re-opening, and was a separate issue from re-opening the campus for education operations.
 

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Interesting Article on Payouts to fcs schools if no fans at the game, the big boys are not going to pay...

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/football/6466399-Valley-to-Summit-College-football-guarantee-games-could-be-concern-for-UND-FCS
 

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Iowa resuming athletics practices on or about Jun 1st. We're starting to get a trickle of good news about maybe playing some football in the fall. Thanks for that link, 100.
IOWA CITY — Amid widespread shutdowns in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the University of Iowa imposed a moratorium on all athletics-related activities through June 1.

“We’re ever so hopeful that this virus will be behind us at that point, and we’ll be able to get back to what we normally would do,” UI President Bruce Harreld told the Board of Regents on Thursday.

That includes Hawkeye football practice. The team already missed this its spring practice.

“Right now, June 1 is the date we’re going to get back to practice,” Harreld said.
https://www.thegazette.com/subject/...l-eyeing-a-june-1-return-to-practice-20200430
 

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Iowa resuming athletics practices on or about Jun 1st.

It will be interesting to see the timetable on all of this. Surely they won't let them practice for 3 months straight. Do they practice in June and call it spring practice and then take July off before resuming camp in August? What about teams that may not start until mid-July. Will they be allowed to practice straight through? Who decides? Will it be done state by state, conference by conference or NCAA division by division?
 

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Well, all good questions Total Red. I am sure however it comes out - Illinois will be the last state to do anything positive. I say you better start preparing to open up by June 1 - if not that is a management problem.
 

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Yeah, no question that we're in uncharted waters. Many questions need to be asked and answered before games are played. And like TR said, it's not even clear who's in charge. I'm inclined toward the attitude that I'll take good news where ever I can find it, and remain hopeful.

crazzymark, you want ISU to be a football school? A win over the dread Illini would be a big step in that direction.
 

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Tell the fat, bloated, POS of a Gov he has got to stop with the politics, open the state, cut down on the Krispy Kremes , get his family back from Florida and get to what limited work there is in Ill. Fear fear fear... you are his subjects and need to fear him, police and your neighbors. And nope, I, we (tax payers) are not bailing the state out. GO YOU DAMN REDBIRDS AND WIN THIS GAME!! Nice media day pis on twitter.
 

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Spack said 2 months to get ramped up and that sounds about right. I worry about soft tissue injuries, especially with skill kids not in the weight room. Yeah everyone's lifting, but it's not the same. It takes time to get in football shape. I'd look at a month in the classroom, lifting and conditioning and a month of normal fall camp.

As for the season, the worst case scenario if I'm an AD is losing the Illinois game. That revenue is in the budget. In order to play that game on time camp needs to start mid-July.

Conference competition is a whole different thing. While we start the non- conference with Illinois schools, we start conference with 2 Dakota's. I have little doubt the Dakota's will open things up before Illinois does. That's a problem on the field. A conference only schedule could screw us royally.

I'm intrigued by a spring scenario. It might be pretty cool. Imagine fall and spring sports going on at the same time. The campus atmosphere would be awesome. I was a football guy my entire life, but some of the best days I ever had were spent as an AD, hopping around between multiple sports watching all of our athletes compete. A day consisting of a cross country meet in the morning, a noon football kickoff, a late afternoon baseball game and an evening volleyball match would be heaven in Timmy's world.
 

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TIMMY said:
Spack said 2 months to get ramped up and that sounds about right. I worry about soft tissue injuries, especially with skill kids not in the weight room. Yeah everyone's lifting, but it's not the same. It takes time to get in football shape. I'd look at a month in the classroom, lifting and conditioning and a month of normal fall camp.

As for the season, the worst case scenario if I'm an AD is losing the Illinois game. That revenue is in the budget. In order to play that game on time camp needs to start mid-July.

Conference competition is a whole different thing. While we start the non- conference with Illinois schools, we start conference with 2 Dakota's. I have little doubt the Dakota's will open things up before Illinois does. That's a problem on the field. A conference only schedule could screw us royally.

I'm intrigued by a spring scenario. It might be pretty cool. Imagine fall and spring sports going on at the same time. The campus atmosphere would be awesome. I was a football guy my entire life, but some of the best days I ever had were spent as an AD, hopping around between multiple sports watching all of our athletes compete. A day consisting of a cross country meet in the morning, a noon football kickoff, a late afternoon baseball game and an evening volleyball match would be heaven in Timmy's world.
You think the NCAA would actually allow some universities to practice while others could not?
 

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DBird said:
TIMMY said:
Spack said 2 months to get ramped up and that sounds about right. I worry about soft tissue injuries, especially with skill kids not in the weight room. Yeah everyone's lifting, but it's not the same. It takes time to get in football shape. I'd look at a month in the classroom, lifting and conditioning and a month of normal fall camp.

As for the season, the worst case scenario if I'm an AD is losing the Illinois game. That revenue is in the budget. In order to play that game on time camp needs to start mid-July.

Conference competition is a whole different thing. While we start the non- conference with Illinois schools, we start conference with 2 Dakota's. I have little doubt the Dakota's will open things up before Illinois does. That's a problem on the field. A conference only schedule could screw us royally.

I'm intrigued by a spring scenario. It might be pretty cool. Imagine fall and spring sports going on at the same time. The campus atmosphere would be awesome. I was a football guy my entire life, but some of the best days I ever had were spent as an AD, hopping around between multiple sports watching all of our athletes compete. A day consisting of a cross country meet in the morning, a noon football kickoff, a late afternoon baseball game and an evening volleyball match would be heaven in Timmy's world.
You think the NCAA would actually allow some universities to practice while others could not?
Practice probably not but facilities and weight room yes.
 

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TIMMY said:
Spack said 2 months to get ramped up and that sounds about right. I worry about soft tissue injuries, especially with skill kids not in the weight room. Yeah everyone's lifting, but it's not the same. It takes time to get in football shape. I'd look at a month in the classroom, lifting and conditioning and a month of normal fall camp.

As for the season, the worst case scenario if I'm an AD is losing the Illinois game. That revenue is in the budget. In order to play that game on time camp needs to start mid-July.

Conference competition is a whole different thing. While we start the non- conference with Illinois schools, we start conference with 2 Dakota's. I have little doubt the Dakota's will open things up before Illinois does. That's a problem on the field. A conference only schedule could screw us royally.

I'm intrigued by a spring scenario. It might be pretty cool. Imagine fall and spring sports going on at the same time. The campus atmosphere would be awesome. I was a football guy my entire life, but some of the best days I ever had were spent as an AD, hopping around between multiple sports watching all of our athletes compete. A day consisting of a cross country meet in the morning, a noon football kickoff, a late afternoon baseball game and an evening volleyball match would be heaven in Timmy's world.
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Dan Patrick said on his show today that he has a source who said the current proposal in the FBS is that there will be 10 games, only one non-con game, it'd have to be regional, and no FCS games. For example, Ohio State would play Akron, Illinois would play Northern Illinois.

When he said, "no FCS games" I think it was just a reference to FBS playing FCS. So, if this goes through this game wouldn't happen.

Not sure where this process is or if its going to happen but DP is typically pretty connected.
You guys sure make it hard for a guy to be hopeful. If what Adunk shared turns out to be true, it's a perfect storm of bad for ISU & FCS generally.

We don't seem to be able to get a break against the Illini. I recall the basketball game against them somewhere in around 2003-04-05. We'd moved to St. Louis a few years earlier and I couldn't go to the game. Listened to it on this thing called the "internet". Anyway, we had them dead to rights - lead by 10, i think with a minute left. Lost in OT. To add insult to injury Marcus Arnold transferred over there. If karma exists, we'll play this game and even the score.
 

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StLRedbird said:
TIMMY said:
Spack said 2 months to get ramped up and that sounds about right. I worry about soft tissue injuries, especially with skill kids not in the weight room. Yeah everyone's lifting, but it's not the same. It takes time to get in football shape. I'd look at a month in the classroom, lifting and conditioning and a month of normal fall camp.

As for the season, the worst case scenario if I'm an AD is losing the Illinois game. That revenue is in the budget. In order to play that game on time camp needs to start mid-July.

Conference competition is a whole different thing. While we start the non- conference with Illinois schools, we start conference with 2 Dakota's. I have little doubt the Dakota's will open things up before Illinois does. That's a problem on the field. A conference only schedule could screw us royally.

I'm intrigued by a spring scenario. It might be pretty cool. Imagine fall and spring sports going on at the same time. The campus atmosphere would be awesome. I was a football guy my entire life, but some of the best days I ever had were spent as an AD, hopping around between multiple sports watching all of our athletes compete. A day consisting of a cross country meet in the morning, a noon football kickoff, a late afternoon baseball game and an evening volleyball match would be heaven in Timmy's world.
Adunk33 said:
Dan Patrick said on his show today that he has a source who said the current proposal in the FBS is that there will be 10 games, only one non-con game, it'd have to be regional, and no FCS games. For example, Ohio State would play Akron, Illinois would play Northern Illinois.

When he said, "no FCS games" I think it was just a reference to FBS playing FCS. So, if this goes through this game wouldn't happen.

Not sure where this process is or if its going to happen but DP is typically pretty connected.
You guys sure make it hard for a guy to be hopeful. If what Adunk shared turns out to be true, it's a perfect storm of bad for ISU & FCS generally.

We don't seem to be able to get a break against the Illini. I recall the basketball game against them somewhere in around 2003-04-05. We'd moved to St. Louis a few years earlier and I couldn't go to the game. Listened to it on this thing called the "internet". Anyway, we had them dead to rights - lead by 10, i think with a minute left. Lost in OT. To add insult to injury Marcus Arnold transferred over there. If karma exists, we'll play this game and even the score.

If you want to go even more recent when we don't catch a break with the Illini, look at the 2017 NIT. We had UCF pinned in the first half. They clawed back and then the infamous McIntosh foul to put them to the line to go up with enough time only allowing us to head a prayer for the win. Of course, had we won that game, Illinois would've been at Redbird the following week.

Then before that, we played them in Cancun (2011?), Tyler Brown hit a shot from the corner that would've tied the game with a little over a second to play, but he stepped out of bounds.

Then before that, :lol: In 2009, we got hammered in football by them, but did win the 3Q 10-7....

Volleyball has had a big win over them recently. Women's basketball did too in an NIT like 10ish years ago? That was a fun game!

Anyway, let's go get them. Hopefully the Boys get to play and we take them down in Champaign.
 

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Received an email from ISU Athletics today announcing the extension of Football season tickets to June 15. I view that as a very encouraging sign. Now we just need for the Athletic Department to have a "pair" and follow the lead of other schools - all activities will begin on June 1 - period and end of story.
 
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