Fire Muller...now!

[Aggie]

Unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you look at it men’s basketball is a business. Whether one likes that or not. Low attendance, low donations, “pride” in seeing your school at the big dance, which leads to donations all over the school will ultimately drive the head coaching decision. It is what have you done for me lately and what do we expect and predict what you will do in the future? Since 2017 which at the end of the season is 5 years ago and especially the last two seasons the “ product” on the floor of redbird arena has not been very good, not even average. Does not matter how good a person you are or anything else about you but at the end of the day you will be judged on your results. And, in this “business” that is wins versus loses, did you bring in extra money with a tournament bid, etc. It is not personal just business. Hopefully people can move beyond, history and personal relationships, what happened in the past, and do what is best for the FUTURE of redbird basketball.

 

[Birgs]

So fire an upstanding teacher because he doesn't fill the coffers. Then go to a Bulls game if you want pay-for-play. Last I checked, Illinois State University sponsors amateurs in an effort to promote student athleticism.

 

[Birdfriend72]

Perhaps apropos of nothing, but resume building:

4 year starter EVERY game & Academic All-Everything @ alma mater
Persistence on high levels as a lead assistant to improve his craft
Resistance to leap to "TASTY" positions out of loyalty

More important
Coach saw his program through one of the most tragic eras of ISU Athletics. Maybe some of you loud-mouths need to step back and visit the fountain in front of Horton. Maybe you see Coach @ Mass whenever in town.

Keyboard critics make my stomach turn.

Am I disappointed in the W/L ledger?

Of course. But I can't think of a better leader for OUR program.

Too bad that didn't equal wins.

 

[gobirds85]

Perhaps apropos of nothing, but resume building:

4 year starter EVERY game & Academic All-Everything @ alma mater
Persistence on high levels as a lead assistant to improve his craft
Resistance to leap to "TASTY" positions out of loyalty

More important
Coach saw his program through one of the most tragic eras of ISU Athletics. Maybe some of you loud-mouths need to step back and visit the fountain in front of Horton. Maybe you see Coach @ Mass whenever in town.

Keyboard critics make my stomach turn.

Am I disappointed in the W/L ledger?

Of course. But I can't think of a better leader for OUR program.

Larry, is that you? How’s retirement, buddy?

Seriously, hitting happy hour pretty hard, man.

 

[jamminjamarsmiley]

Perhaps apropos of nothing, but resume building:

4 year starter EVERY game & Academic All-Everything @ alma mater
Persistence on high levels as a lead assistant to improve his craft
Resistance to leap to "TASTY" positions out of loyalty

More important
Coach saw his program through one of the most tragic eras of ISU Athletics. Maybe some of you loud-mouths need to step back and visit the fountain in front of Horton. Maybe you see Coach @ Mass whenever in town.

Keyboard critics make my stomach turn.

Am I disappointed in the W/L ledger?

Of course. But I can't think of a better leader for OUR program.

That’s all nice but at the end of the day W/L outweigh all of it.

Also what “TASTY” positions has Dan turned down to stay at ISU? Enlighten us?

I’m not even going to touch the plane crash tragedy being mentioned here as a reason to support keep Dan around

 

[ILLST25]

What happens when we finish top 5 in the MVC?

 

[CaliRdBrd]

What happens when we finish top 5 in the MVC?

Nothing. Top 5 could be 8-10 (in conference).

 

[gobirds85]

What happens when we finish top 5 in the MVC?

Then we avoid getting beat on Thursday. Right now we have to concentrate on beating Chicago St, which by even having to discuss is symptomatic of where the program is under muller.

 

[BirdGrad2011]

Perhaps apropos of nothing, but resume building:

4 year starter EVERY game & Academic All-Everything @ alma mater
Persistence on high levels as a lead assistant to improve his craft
Resistance to leap to "TASTY" positions out of loyalty

More important
Coach saw his program through one of the most tragic eras of ISU Athletics. Maybe some of you loud-mouths need to step back and visit the fountain in front of Horton. Maybe you see Coach @ Mass whenever in town.

Keyboard critics make my stomach turn.

Am I disappointed in the W/L ledger?

Of course. But I can't think of a better leader for OUR program.

Cool, Dan’s a good person. Don’t think anyone is arguing against. He’s an inadequate coach. Let’s move on and he can continue to be a good person while we find an adequate coach.

 

[fdbird83]

Sometimes guys are good to great assistant coaches but can't handle sliding over 6 inches to the head coaches seat.

 

[DWRedbird]

Sometimes guys are good to great assistant coaches but can't handle sliding over 6 inches to the head coaches seat.

I think Dan would benefit form going the Porter Moser route. Take an assistant job for a really good HC and learn a new style/system and then get back into head coaching.

What happens when we finish top 5 in the MVC?

If we finish top 5 in the Valley I think it would largely depend on how we did in the Valley tourney. We make a run at the championship, my guess is the AD gives Dan another year to see if he can build on it. We finish top 5 and bounce in the first round I think the AD buys him out and moves on.

 

[BirdGrad2011]

What’s the point of the coaches show when Dick asks such hard hitting questions like “how do you have your bench sit?” and “can you still dunk?” The media in this town is awful.

 

[Bird Friend]

That’s all nice but at the end of the day W/L outweigh all of it.

Also what “TASTY” positions has Dan turned down to stay at ISU? Enlighten us?

I’m not even going to touch the plane crash tragedy being mentioned here as a reason to support keep Dan around

And yet, you just did . . .

 

[Bird Friend]

Sometimes guys are good to great assistant coaches but can't handle sliding over 6 inches to the head coaches seat.

Man, you've got skinny chairs.

 

[isuquinndog]

What’s the point of the coaches show when Dick asks such hard hitting questions like “how do you have your bench sit?” and “can you still dunk?” The media in this town is awful.

Have you ever heard a college coaches show where they actually talk about anything meaningful? Especially something that would be considered controversial like Dans job? That's just not going to happen.

Dick works for Learfield, who is contracted by ISU

 

[ISUBird]

What happens when we finish top 5 in the MVC?

 

[BirdGrad2011]

Have you ever heard a college coaches show where they actually talk about anything meaningful? Especially something that would be considered controversial like Dans job? That's just not going to happen.

Dick works for Learfield, who is contracted by ISU

I’m not expecting true hard hitting questions, but we can’t ask about the turnovers or what’s being done to combat mindset problems? I don’t expect Dick to flat out say “hey you’re about to lose your job. Thoughts?”

 

[DaveBird10]

Have you ever heard a college coaches show where they actually talk about anything meaningful? Especially something that would be considered controversial like Dans job? That's just not going to happen.

Dick works for Learfield, who is contracted by ISU

I’m not expecting true hard hitting questions, but we can’t ask about the turnovers or what’s being done to combat mindset problems? I don’t expect Dick to flat out say “hey you’re about to lose your job. Thoughts?”

The questions that fans ask, Dick don't even see all the questions. Someone from Learfield writes the questions down that come in through Facebook on a post-it-note and give the questions to Dick that way.

 

[Adunk33]

It’s “The Dan Muller Coach’s Show,” it’s meant for fans of the team to get more insight on the team and players outside of a post or pre game interview. In a market of this size, the ones you should be pointing at to ask the hard hitting questions are Benson and the students. Benson won’t because that’d threaten Mullers availability to him and as the beat writer, that’d make it a challenge to to do his job. Honestly, the students have the most to gain from asking the tough questions. Muller won’t limit student availability in a press conference, and for the student, it’s a resume builder. “I asked this question when no one else would…” and then the student gets to leave town after a couple years covering the team.

Media is a fascinating study, big and small markets operate completely different. In big markets (pre COVID) for a college basketball team, you probably have 15-20 reporters in a post game interview. A market this size, you’d be lucky to get 5. It’s important to consider more than just “why don’t they ask the tough questions.” Well, the short answer is, if you appreciate reading an article in the Pantagraph with quotes from Muller, they can’t.

That responsibility never and it shouldn’t rely on the play by play or color guy. Though Matty and Dan often speak very openly after games. Yes we get a lot of “a lot of guys did some things well, others struggled.” That’s a different conversation.

 

[BirdGrad2011]

Just wait for Kyle Brennan to give a vote of confidence when it’s another Thursday exit because nobody can be successful playing 15 games in 3.5 weeks. I can see it now.