Fire Muller...now!

ricohill

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Wonder why it is so hard to recruit??? Maybe prospective players read all this nonsense about firing the coach. Who wants to play for a fan base like what they see on this forum? Everyone was talking about what a loser Moser was until after he got the boot and went to a school many of you said wasn't worthy of the MVC. Guess he showed you.... Get off this fire the coach crap.
Moser was 22-50 in the MVC with 2 last place finishes. He deserved to be fired. He’s had 2 great seasons in 17 years and Loyola was going back to reality next year.

Also, no one was calling for Dan to be fired on here until the last few years. Why didn’t he recruit better when the Kool Aid Krew posted non stop about his greatness that led to this disaster.
 

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Wonder why it is so hard to recruit??? Maybe prospective players read all this nonsense about firing the coach. Who wants to play for a fan base like what they see on this forum? Everyone was talking about what a loser Moser was until after he got the boot and went to a school many of you said wasn't worthy of the MVC. Guess he showed you.... Get off this fire the coach crap.

Every fan base in the country that has watched what we have watched says the same thing on the fan forums. By most accounts, we are an incredibly tame bunch. Look at what happened after osu and illinoy lost in the tourney.

Players and their parents see and hear this kind of thing all the time. It comes with the territory. If things posted on this forum upset players, then maybe they need to find something else to do with their time. There isn't a transfer or hs recruit out there hasn't heard about muller's shortcomings as a HC. They hear it from friends, teammates, other recruiters, family members, etc. This would be the last place they need to come to gauge a coach's success or lack thereof.
 

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Wonder why it is so hard to recruit??? Maybe prospective players read all this nonsense about firing the coach. Who wants to play for a fan base like what they see on this forum? Everyone was talking about what a loser Moser was until after he got the boot and went to a school many of you said wasn't worthy of the MVC. Guess he showed you.... Get off this fire the coach crap.
A recruit doesn't need to read this board to see that the program is a hot mess.
 

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Every fan base in the country that has watched what we have watched says the same thing on the fan forums. By most accounts, we are an incredibly tame bunch. Look at what happened after osu and illinoy lost in the tourney.

Players and their parents see and hear this kind of thing all the time. It comes with the territory. If things posted on this forum upset players, then maybe they need to find something else to do with their time. There isn't a transfer or hs recruit out there hasn't heard about muller's shortcomings as a HC. They hear it from friends, teammates, other recruiters, family members, etc. This would be the last place they need to come to gauge a coach's success or lack thereof.
This board is VERY tame.
 

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So he would have stayed if Muller wasn’t completely worthless at his job.
Exactly! If you talk to D1 coaches that are successful- being a D1 player is a full time job. It doesn’t stop after the season. Good players want to win! Period!
 

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Wonder why it is so hard to recruit??? Maybe prospective players read all this nonsense about firing the coach. Who wants to play for a fan base like what they see on this forum? Everyone was talking about what a loser Moser was until after he got the boot and went to a school many of you said wasn't worthy of the MVC. Guess he showed you.... Get off this fire the coach crap.
Ladies and gentleman...

Step right up and see your very own multiple participation trophy-holder....
 

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Just want to point out it’s early, but guys have started committing and releasing their top schools. ISU hasn’t been mentioned a single time other than “reaching out” on a couple guys. What the hell is this staff doing? Belcher follows a few people on Twitter and that’s all we’ve seen or heard other than Benson’s half assed Q&A where Dan says he cares.

Brad Underwood put out a statement within an hour or 2 after Adam Miller entered the portal. Dan Muller...crickets.
 

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Just want to point out it’s early, but guys have started committing and releasing their top schools. ISU hasn’t been mentioned a single time other than “reaching out” on a couple guys. What the hell is this staff doing? Belcher follows a few people on Twitter and that’s all we’ve seen or heard other than Benson’s half assed Q&A where Dan says he cares.

Brad Underwood put out a statement within an hour or 2 after Adam Miller entered the portal. Dan Muller...crickets.
He is collecting $600,000 it’s all good!
 

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Brad Underwood put out a statement within an hour or 2 after Adam Miller entered the portal. Dan Muller...crickets.
Probably the 3 biggest guys (best players) who entered the portal from the MVC are: Clay, Yesufu and now DJ. ( Not counting Trees guys because of the coaching change).

I’m not 100% sure here but I don’t think Lottich or DeVries came out with statements either.

Not sticking up for Dan but just noticing it’s not some universal thing that coaches do.
 

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Is this upcoming season going to be year 4 or year 5 of the "We're young and rebuilding since my program's high water mark" tour? The apathy that has set in is causing me to lose track.

ISU used to be thought of as a "basketball school." Now it is a school that has basketball. There is a big difference. (No disrespect to the football program. More than happy to see it consistently doing well, with the obvious exception of this spring.)
 

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So this year's team was not great and next year's team looks like... well, will we be able to field a full roster? Serious question.

Assuming Reeves does not come back, we are down to, what... 8 total players including the walk ons and redshirts? This may be an all time bad situation for us.
 

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Is this upcoming season going to be year 4 or year 5 of the "We're young and rebuilding since my program's high water mark" tour? The apathy that has set in is causing me to lose track.

ISU used to be thought of as a "basketball school." Now it is a school that has basketball. There is a big difference. (No disrespect to the football program. More than happy to see it consistently doing well, with the obvious exception of this spring.)
Not really sure we've ever really been known as a "basketball" school. Mostly I think we've been known as a school that wanted to be known as a "basketball" school.
 

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Not really sure we've ever really been known as a "basketball" school. Mostly I think we've been known as a school that wanted to be known as a "basketball" school.
We were a basketball school up until 1998.


We still have the 48th most wins of D1 schools.

Are we really good at anything? Baseball won a couple of games in the NCAA tournament in 2019 then got eliminated. Volleyball which is far and away our best program hasn’t won a set in the NCAA Tournament since 2014. They get a play in game this year so maybe get a win.

Soccer won one NCAA tournament match 5 years ago. Track and Field wins the MVC, but doesn’t seem to send many kids to nationals or score any points at that meet.

We had one good run in sub division football, but now that program is in shambles.

We were on an upward trajectory when Zenger left and it’s all fallen apart.
 

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Can we just rename the title of this thread, "Dear Prospective Recruits, Please don't come here"
 

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