Does Illinois or Okie State come calling?

[Reggie Redbird]

WOW. Leave after 1 year with a buyout of 600,000$. West VA. might be a liitle different culture than the Midwest and a lot further away to her traditional recruiting territory.

If the school you’re going to is going to pay about 2/3 of that, or it gets negotiated down, it’s a lot easier to make that move. Over the life of the contract, she’s going to make $1.2 mil or more in salary. That also makes it easier for her if she has to pay $200k of that. I wouldn’t be surprised if Minny pays the entire $600k or whatever final buyout and she pays them back.

Even if we get KG to $300k a year, we won’t be able to compete financially if another school gives her $500k+ and a 5-6 year deal. However, the quality of P5 school could give pause if it’s a school that doesn’t fund anywhere close to its competition.

 

[ChiRedbirdfan]

If the school you’re going to is going to pay about 2/3 of that, or it gets negotiated down, it’s a lot easier to make that move. Over the life of the contract, she’s going to make $1.2 mil or more in salary. That also makes it easier for her if she has to pay $200k of that. I wouldn’t be surprised if Minny pays the entire $600k or whatever final buyout and she pays them back.

Even if we get KG to $300k a year, we won’t be able to compete financially if another school gives her $500k+ and a 5-6 year deal. However, the quality of P5 school could give pause if it’s a school that doesn’t fund anywhere close to its competition.

Hats of to KG and her accomplishments. I am proud that she is a Redbird coach given both her image and accomplishments. Hopefully we have her for another season or two.

However, ISU athletics is not in a position to be increasing coaching pay of non-revenue sports, IMO. Unfortunately ISU athletics does not have that financial luxury, and trust me, I wish ISU did. My belief is that ISU athletics tries to do too much with too many sports and unfortunately the resources get watered down where they are most needed. ISU needs to be allocating as many resources as possible to football and men's basketball so that we can increase those revenue generating sports and more importantly increase university visibility. Others may differ but I am a big believer in doing more with less as a general business principle. Further ISU athletics is overly dependent on student/university subsidies (roughly +70% that last I knew) so invest where we can grow real athletic revenue. I would even advocate for ISU eliminating, where possible (considering title IX..etc), some sports that do not generate revenue/attendance so that student/university subsidies can be concentrated elsewhere.

 

[Reggie Redbird]

Hats of to KG and her accomplishments. I am proud that she is a Redbird coach given both her image and accomplishments. Hopefully we have her for another season or two.

However, ISU athletics is not in a position to be increasing coaching pay of non-revenue sports, IMO. Unfortunately ISU athletics does not have that financial luxury, and trust me, I wish ISU did. My belief is that ISU athletics tries to do too much with too many sports and unfortunately the resources get watered down where they are most needed. ISU needs to be allocating as many resources as possible to football and men's basketball so that we can increase those revenue generating sports and more importantly increase university visibility. Others may differ but I am a big believer in doing more with less as a general business principle. Further ISU athletics is overly dependent on student/university subsidies (roughly +70% that last I knew) so invest where we can grow real athletic revenue. I would even advocate for ISU eliminating, where possible (considering title IX..etc), some sports that do not generate revenue/attendance so that student/university subsidies can be concentrated elsewhere.

If we’re only investing in revenue generating sports, we’re probably talking about MBB having that as an option now and maybe golf based on donation potential. I believe football by far loses us the most.

I get what you’re saying. If someone comes in an offers Holm a $250k a year raise, we aren’t in a position to match it. However, from a budget perspective, FB is not an argument to plow money into to try and make a money-maker right now.

Where Gillespie can help keeping her is lower losses on the books for WBB. If attendance plummets because she leaves and we lose steam, that will cost us more.

Two ways to soften the blow: take 1-2 buy games where we take a paycheck and plow that into her salary. Do that instead of us paying a buy game. We could also offer an attendance enhancement to her contract where the more we draw in paid attendance, the more she makes.

 

[cubird]

More pay games if they wiil pay and play us. Wonder what Purdue and St.Louis paid? Several Big Ten teams are close bus rides.

 

[Reggie Redbird]

Both of those and Wisconsin were H-H deals. You’re right though that there are many teams that are a quick trip to get to.

 

[cubird]

That being the case... I am guessing that there are lot less buy games for women basketball than for the P5 men programs.

 

[Reggie Redbird]

That being the case... I am guessing that there are lot less buy games for women basketball than for the P5 men programs.

There are buy games, but you are right, not as many. We would just have to sacrifice some home games.

 

[TIMMY]

I don't buy raising the universities profile claim unless the skies part and divine intervention places Illinois State University into the Big 10. If you ask 10 people if they know who won the FCS football championship you'll be lucky to get 1 in 10. Same with basketball. Loyola struck oil nationally with Sister Jean. The average person has already forgotten Drake made it this year. Drakes's enrollment will not spike next year.
That said a big pay raise isn't going to keep a coach here if the Big 10 comes calling. We're not a P5 and will never pay coaches like a P5.
Pay coaches the best you can and hope they win enough to move on.

And lots of luck to Loyola in the Atlantic 10. 1-15 and crazy travel costs across the board. Nuts!

 

[MadBird]

More good news (for us) -- Michigan State hired Bowling Green's head coach to fill their vacancy. I doubt Bowling Green is much of a step up for Coach G, so hopefully one less team out shopping for her talents.

 

[Reggie Redbird]

More good news (for us) -- Michigan State hired Bowling Green's head coach to fill their vacancy. I doubt Bowling Green is much of a step up for Coach G, so hopefully one less team out shopping for her talents.

I believe Fralick made $15-20k less at BGSU than KG does here. Fralick will make about $650k more from MSU ($900k for 6 years). If a similar opportunity comes for KG when it’s her time, look at Jessica Kellar as a top candidate.