Direction of Basketball with new AD

redbirdfan04

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I have been wondering do we think the new AD will fire Dan mid season or wait until the end of the year, he starts on the 15th. I just don't see a way he stays with the new AD. I guess the other option is he gives him another year due to his salary and young players. Also how long does everyone think it will take to move the program back in the right direction. This 3 year slide has seemed much longer! I really need a reason to go to St. Louis in March, leaving Thursday night is no fun.
 

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Honestly, why this question is pondered about on this forum over and over for a few years now is hard to fathom -- just follow the $.

There is no Koch brothers for a potential bailout; the school can't afford to eat the remaining years of his contract and also hire and pay for a new coach; there is a pandemic costing billions and impacting revenues; donations are down and future donations contain many uncertainties; the unknown outcome of the pandemic on the future state of education and its transformation that will challenge recent dependable revenue streams

Miracles do happen but this one is a longshot unless there is a bailout available that we are all not privy to.
 

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I think a change will be made, but doubt it will be this year, more likely next year. Hard to believe he walks in here and as his first act cans the basketball coach. CB2K makes some good points, but watching AD Kyle's press conference he makes a big deal about bringing new revenue, not making cuts, increasing attendance, blah blah blah. We don't need Koch Bros. for our bailout, and there just might be a donor or two who could come up with enough cash to make it work.

Our new AD has the "luxury" of not being tied to Dan and his ISU past, if the alums are restless there won't be that much resistance to making a change. And if he's looking to increase attendance, the excitement of a new coach just might be the ticket.
 

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Not going to be a Mets situation where the owner fired the GM and other high level guys with in hours of taking ownership of the team. The AD isn't going to fire a bunch of people after just walking on the job.
 

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As mentioned on this board several other times. COVID gives everyone an excuse this year. New AD can't come in and fire a guy in the midst of one of the hardest years of everyone's life. I'm sure KB will have a conversation with Muller at the end of the season to let him know that he needs to see progress next year (he mentioned this in his presser). A Thursday night appearance in the 21-22 season, Muller gets canned. At that point, the buyout will only be 2 years, if I'm not mistaking.
 

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As mentioned on this board several other times. COVID gives everyone an excuse this year. New AD can't come in and fire a guy in the midst of one of the hardest years of everyone's life. I'm sure KB will have a conversation with Muller at the end of the season to let him know that he needs to see progress next year (he mentioned this in his presser). A Thursday night appearance in the 21-22 season, Muller gets canned. At that point, the buyout will only be 2 years, if I'm not mistaking.

A two year buyout still involves seven figures. This is an * type of year so I do not know how much this year will count.
 

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As mentioned on this board several other times. COVID gives everyone an excuse this year. New AD can't come in and fire a guy in the midst of one of the hardest years of everyone's life. I'm sure KB will have a conversation with Muller at the end of the season to let him know that he needs to see progress next year (he mentioned this in his presser). A Thursday night appearance in the 21-22 season, Muller gets canned. At that point, the buyout will only be 2 years, if I'm not mistaking.
There are two extreme kind of Thursday night seasons. Evansville 2020 (0-18), Drake 2012 (9-9, as part of a five-way tie for third place along with Evansville, Illinois State, Missouri State, Northern Iowa). The former is a bottom out, the latter may be part of a bounce back trend.

Also, avoiding Thursday night while going say 5-13 would not be good either.
 

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There are two extreme kind of Thursday night seasons. Evansville 2020 (0-18), Drake 2012 (9-9, as part of a five-way tie for third place along with Evansville, Illinois State, Missouri State, Northern Iowa). The former is a bottom out, the latter may be part of a bounce back trend.

Also, avoiding Thursday night while going say 5-13 would not be good either.
Agreed. You really don't even have to go back that far to find a 9-9 team playing Thursday. Muller and the Birds were 9-9 in the 2018-19 season. Two half-court buzzer beaters away from being 11-7 and in sole possession of third place. Would've played Bradley or Mo State as the 6-seed on Friday night.

I'm thinking if the team is on Thursday and below .500 next season, the new AD has to seriously look at making a change.
 

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Currently

357 D-I institutions

276 non-P5+BE

take out AAC, A10, MWC (generally multi-bid leagues) schools and there are 240 remaining

yet you consistently remind of us of Gonzaga ... 1 of 240 ... 0.417%

tip of the cap to you sir, you have threaded the needle beautifully.

A question (much like New England (Tom Brady)/Bill Belichick) is it Gonzaga/Mark Few? I would love that kind of run here, but is it really just a perfect storm of a talented coach deciding to stay? How difficult is that to find? What happens if say a CaliRdBrd, CrazzyMark, JamminJamarSmiley, RicoHill or Trey_Guidry4Three is the next coach. Is it continued success or back with the pack? Time will eventually tell with the Bulldogs. Barring either the WCC raising its profile or the 'zags landing in a stronger conference I would bet on the pack.
 
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