Bradley cutting costs by 10%

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Middling private schools will continue to feel the economic crunch. Online classes will continue to eat into their incoming classes and people are realizing that these private schools simply cost more without the ROI.

Right now, as always, it sucks to b u.
 
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I doubt this goes anywhere, but situation is getting serious on the hilltop.
 
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I have heard - recruits who have committed to BU in several sports, the parents are calling, as that information is getting out.
 
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We can all be mad at ISU for decisions made in the past and poor leadership when it comes to athletics.

But, ISU as an academic institution seems to be in a great position financially and student enrollment wise, much better than almost all the other Illinois schools.
 
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Going through this with my son right now. We took a tour of NIU. It by far is the most financially friendly campus that he applied to. Based upon his grades they are offering him $5000 a year to go there (obviously had to keep his grades up for year 2/3/4). My Kid is no Sheldon either, just one of those kids who's in for a rude awakening when he gets to college because HS has been easy. Who knows what other kind of money we could find out there for him. One girl giving the tour said they are paying her to go to college there with all the different things she qualified for. But he said the campus was bla, which I was with him on the tour and it was an NIU gameday, thought there would be more happening. We drove by the stadium, I'd say 2 hours before game time and the there wasn't as many people as I thought tailgating and stuff, it was a beautiful Saturday too. Fatty's was nice, but felt more like a restaurant then a party bar, more like Schooners than Pub II, to get a comparison. And walking around it reminded me why I didn't choose them, my son said the campus wasn't well thought out and everything was spread out (he did say he liked how ISU was mostly right there on the quad). But with the amount of money they are handing out, they are begging to get the kids on campus. Almost making it more attractive then the JuCo route for kids within a 50 mile radius, which is almost every burb in Chicago.

What surprises me is that Louisville offered him a waiver to pay in-state tuition (as long as he kept a 3.0), which makes that almost the same price as ISU, might even be a better price since the room and food was actually cheaper. Wish he'd take a tour of that, tried to get him to go last Saturday when they had a home football game. Illinois doesn't participate in that border state tuition thing anymore, so I was surprised that Louisville has their own policy with border states.
 
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Going through this with my son right now. We took a tour of NIU. It by far is the most financially friendly campus that he applied to. Based upon his grades they are offering him $5000 a year to go there (obviously had to keep his grades up for year 2/3/4). My Kid is no Sheldon either, just one of those kids who's in for a rude awakening when he gets to college because HS has been easy. Who knows what other kind of money we could find out there for him. One girl giving the tour said they are paying her to go to college there with all the different things she qualified for. But he said the campus was bla, which I was with him on the tour and it was an NIU gameday, thought there would be more happening. We drove by the stadium, I'd say 2 hours before game time and the there wasn't as many people as I thought tailgating and stuff, it was a beautiful Saturday too. Fatty's was nice, but felt more like a restaurant then a party bar, more like Schooners than Pub II, to get a comparison. And walking around it reminded me why I didn't choose them, my son said the campus wasn't well thought out and everything was spread out (he did say he liked how ISU was mostly right there on the quad). But with the amount of money they are handing out, they are begging to get the kids on campus. Almost making it more attractive then the JuCo route for kids within a 50 mile radius, which is almost every burb in Chicago.

What surprises me is that Louisville offered him a waiver to pay in-state tuition (as long as he kept a 3.0), which makes that almost the same price as ISU, might even be a better price since the room and food was actually cheaper. Wish he'd take a tour of that, tried to get him to go last Saturday when they had a home football game. Illinois doesn't participate in that border state tuition thing anymore, so I was surprised that Louisville has their own policy with border states.
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Schools down south have to look at poaching students from other states. These schools are very large and need to keep fresh bodies on campus. Those states do not graduate many college ready students so they have been shopping up north for quite some time. At one time, a few years ago and it might still be true, the state of Illinois was #2 in the nation for exporting HS grads.
 
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Schools down south have to look at poaching students from other states. These schools are very large and need to keep fresh bodies on campus. Those states do not graduate many college ready students so they have been shopping up north for quite some time. At one time, a few years ago and it might still be true, the state of Illinois was #2 in the nation for exporting HS grads.
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I'll send my kid away if they charge me the same price as ISU. I want him to have his own experience and I want a place to visit. He doesn't want to end up in Illinois cause he disagrees with the way the state is run(not starting a politics thing, just stating why he wants to leave). He's more likely to make work connections by going to school in the state he wants to end up in. Also not saying you can't get a degree in IL and then leave, just saying it's slightly easier.
 
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Redbird60451 said:
I'll send my kid away if they charge me the same price as ISU. I want him to have his own experience and I want a place to visit. He doesn't want to end up in Illinois cause he disagrees with the way the state is run(not starting a politics thing, just stating why he wants to leave). He's more likely to make work connections by going to school in the state he wants to end up in. Also not saying you can't get a degree in IL and then leave, just saying it's slightly easier.
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There were lots of schools waiving the out of state tuition or offering substantial scholarships depending on grades/scores 5 to 10 years ago. Their in state tuition was almost always was better than the Illinois in state tuition.
 
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www.stltoday.com

Fontbonne University mulls cuts amid plummeting enrollment, revenue

Fontbonne is facing a deficit of $5.2 million, prompting officials to consider eliminating more than 20 degree programs and laying off 18 faculty members.
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I have never heard of this school, but it's story will be repeated across the country. Private schools without much name recognition will continue to struggle and close. It's just the direction things are headed. For years, privates would tell you that you'll get a better education from them because their instructors are better. I do not think anything could be any farther from the truth.
 
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What a novel concept. Athletics making money for the institution instead of sucking it dry.

My example is in my backyard. Carthage College. They offer 25 sports. The average cost of attendance after aid is $25,000. Do the math. They offer a beautiful campus on the lake. State of the art facilities and athletics drives enrolment. It's a D3 model.

One of my best friends was their football coach Tim Rucks. We worked a lot of camps together during the summer. He coached at Carthage for 20 years. We would talk a lot about our gigs. As long as he kept 100 kids on the roster he had a lifetime contract. Most years he was over 125.

D1 athletics at many schools makes no sense. Bradley is one of them. I would bet at some point they will make the move to D3 and add football along with about 10 other sports. Take the ego out of it. Money talks, bullshit walks.
 
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TIMMY said:
What a novel concept. Athletics making money for the institution instead of sucking it dry.

My example is in my backyard. Carthage College. They offer 25 sports. The average cost of attendance after aid is $25,000. Do the math. They offer a beautiful campus on the lake. State of the art facilities and athletics drives enrolment. It's a D3 model.

One of my best friends was their football coach Tim Rucks. We worked a lot of camps together during the summer. He coached at Carthage for 20 years. We would talk a lot about our gigs. As long as he kept 100 kids on the roster he had a lifetime contract. Most years he was over 125.

D1 athletics at many schools makes no sense. Bradley is one of them. I would bet at some point they will make the move to D3 and add football along with about 10 other sports. Take the ego out of it. Money talks, bullshit walks.
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my daughter played for u of c hoops and i visited carthage campus around 2012 or 2013 with no prior impression. i remember driving in and being blown away by the beauty of the campus that was perched on lake michigan. facilities were very nice as well.

Timmy, i too like the d3 athletic model as it makes financial sense. good returns to the university. on the extreme alternative is d1 fcs which makes no financial sense to me... aka add a tremendous amount of expenses vs d3 football yet avoid the revenue stream that exists while giving scholarships, adding more expensive facilities, more expensive travel, higher coaches salaries..etc. being a finance major a situation of minimizing revenue and maximizing expense is truly bizarre!
 
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Bradley will be NAIA before too long. Welcome to Bradley Junior College
 
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