Bowdoin College announces no fall sports

[ISUBU]

If they didn't offer some sort of financial aid your brother would be in a much smaller club. The lure of playing sports for 4 more years is a huge factor in keeping those schools going. I'm not going to count it up but with 22 sports athletes must account for what? 25% of their total enrollment?

Hey it's tough out there. Life I mean. If you're athletic and you can extend your career 4 more years more power to you and to the parents that help support it!

More than 25% at many, many colleges.

I'm aware of an Illinois college that has 13 incoming basketball players, and an entire team of 13 returning. 26 players on a basketball team.

This isn't new. Macmurray College added football 40 years ago as a way to get male students to attend.

 

[MadBird]

They don't give athletic scholarships. Never have. But in my years as an AD you wouldn't believe how many parents would come up and say their kid got one. Good for them.

Just like the pictures and stories in the weekly local papers about kids signing "letters of intent" to attend DIII schools. Don't sweat the details!!

 

[Virginia Redbird]

If they didn't offer some sort of financial aid your brother would be in a much smaller club. The lure of playing sports for 4 more years is a huge factor in keeping those schools going. I'm not going to count it up but with 22 sports athletes must account for what? 25% of their total enrollment?

Hey it's tough out there. Life I mean. If you're athletic and you can extend your career 4 more years more power to you and to the parents that help support it!

My brother was a freshman at IWU in the fall of 1969. It was a much different landscape back then. If I recall correctly they had no female sports at all and fewer men's sports. Tuition was still expensive compared to ISU but not near the costs you see today. Back in those days, the student-athlete population was probably a very much smaller percentage of the total student enrollment.
Parents claiming full-ride athletic scholarships in a Division that does not award athletic scholarships? Seems rather foolish to me. Whatever gives them a warm fuzzy feeling I guess. In the end, he had the opportunity to play for another four years past high school, starting for three years. He got a solid education and many fond memories. If it works for the schools at Division III and athletes get to extend their career it seems to be a win/win. Unless it has changed all athletes back then had to meet whatever the minimum education standards were. They were students first and athletes a far, far, far second. The landscape of college sports today is very different.

 

[MadBird]

Will park this in this thread, more fallout from being cautious with the pandemic:

Dayton at Southeast Missouri:

The schools jointly announced Monday that their Sept. 3 opener has been canceled. SEMO says it is looking for a replacement opponent.

The Scoop - Monday June 29, 2020 - FootballScoop

 

[fdbird83]

@HayesGardner
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Sports tweet: Division III Grinnell College is expected to cancel its fall athletic seasons, joining D-III Bowdoin and Williams, D-II Morehouse and others in doing so.

 

[MadBird]

Ivy League considering playing FB in the spring.

Report: Ivy League considering pushing season to spring - FootballScoop

Or:

The Ivy League is also reportedly considering playing this fall, with an abbreviated, conference-only 7-game season that would begin in late September and conclude before November.

This would not vary too greatly from a standard Ivy League season, which does not include a postseason element and wraps up the Saturday before Thanksgiving.

If pushed to the spring, the Ivy’s season would begin with pre-season practices in March and games in April and May.

 

[TIMMY]

The Ivy League has never been known as stupid. They might be ahead of the curve.
I've always wanted to see a game at Harvard Stadium, but never had the chance. Maybe this will be it. Much easier to get away in the spring and possibly tie it into the Penn Relay's at Franklin Field which is also on my before I croak list.

 

[fdbird83]

@HayesGardner
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Sports tweet: Division III Grinnell College is expected to cancel its fall athletic seasons, joining D-III Bowdoin and Williams, D-II Morehouse and others in doing so.

Now official for Grinnell. Grinnell College cancels competition for early-fall sports

 

[Total Red]

Football Positive : Clemson 28 K-State 14 Texas 13.

Those were numbers from June and it shows that football players were testing positive but it wasn't because of football. By and large those are players that came in positive so obviously keeping students away from campus and away from athletics doesn't mean you eliminate the chance of catching the virus. You can argue that Covid can be better controlled once players report. You can test them and quarantine anyone who is positive. Catch it early and they should still be able to play this season. Football training takes up a lot of their time so players will be spending most of their day around a group that is known to be not positive. If the players aren't training for football they would be back home interacting with a wide variety of people that haven't been tested. I see it around town. Many of them are going to yard parties or bars. College-aged males want a cold beverage in one hand and hot babe in the other. Those things don't lend themselves to wearing a mask or social distancing. Yes young people will be testing positive because they're tired of this social distancing thing and they think they're invincible. Some of these people will be football players but that doesn't necessarily mean that football is the cause.

 

[TIMMY]

Those were numbers from June and it shows that football players were testing positive but it wasn't because of football. By and large those are players that came in positive so obviously keeping students away from campus and away from athletics doesn't mean you eliminate the chance of catching the virus. You can argue that Covid can be better controlled once players report. You can test them and quarantine anyone who is positive. Catch it early and they should still be able to play this season. Football training takes up a lot of their time so players will be spending most of their day around a group that is known to be not positive. If the players aren't training for football they would be back home interacting with a wide variety of people that haven't been tested. I see it around town. Many of them are going to yard parties or bars. College-aged males want a cold beverage in one hand and hot babe in the other. Those things don't lend themselves to wearing a mask or social distancing. Yes young people will be testing positive because they're tired of this social distancing thing and they think they're invincible. Some of these people will be football players but that doesn't necessarily mean that football is the cause.

No football is not the cause but as Madbird said there better be a plan B, C, and maybe a D, E, ...........Q for when campus reopens. Unless they're going to sequester the football team until the playoffs are over. I sort of remember college and the last thing on my mind would be keeping my distance from the female persuasion!

 

[MadBird]

No football is not the cause but as Madbird said there better be a plan B, C, and maybe a D, E, ...........Q for when campus reopens. Unless they're going to sequester the football team until the playoffs are over. I sort of remember college and the last thing on my mind would be keeping my distance from the female persuasion!

Two things:

Football may not be the cause now, but also there is no football now, just getting going. So, you know, once they get to the 14 day "incubation" period, it may turn out that football and/or hoops and/or baseball or whatever other sports you have do spread it around.

Been reading a lot in the last couple of days about various schools having faculty especially but also some players expressing "concerns" about in-person classes this fall, and also places having the debate about whether to play fall sports, move to spring, etc. Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out, especially if things don't get settle down soon.

We'll see how it plays out.

 

[MadBird]

Hope you can see this behind the paywall. Interesting article from Minneapolis paper about "thinking" of pushing off fall sports to the spring, both college and HS. Good discussion of the pros and cons, some of the issues (ie. some kids graduating HS early to enroll in college, kids maybe having to play two seasons in one calendar year, spring and falls 2021, etc.). But sounds like it might be more likely than maybe I was willing to think:

College, prep football in spring is unpopular option, but things are heading that way

“I’m hoping not. I would prefer that we played in the fall,” St. John’s coach Gary Fasching said. “But … I think we have to be open-minded.”

The idea of pushing the Division I college season to spring surfaced early in the pandemic but faded as optimism grew about the fall. Recently, though, with COVID-19 cases surging nationally and several NCAA programs reporting positive tests, renewed attention has turned to what a spring football season could look like.

“I think the people who say it’s not [an option], in my opinion, just don’t want to think about it,” Oklahoma coach Lincoln Riley told reporters. “… I, for one, think it’s very doable.”


A handful Division II and III colleges have already canceled fall sports. But many Minnesota coaches are optimistic still about playing football come September. Some sort of season is imperative, for the benefit of the student-athletes and the athletics departments’ budgets.

The Gophers stand to lose as much as $75 million if there’s no fall football. Fasching said the St. John’s program largely depends on gate receipts from games.
“It might be a one-time thing, and we might have to learn to do that for a year,” Fasching said of a spring season. “… You’ve just got to be flexible. You have to be able to adjust, and I think the schools that are able to do that … are the ones that are going to be able to handle this.”

 

[fdbird83]

UST IN: Harvard announces all course instruction will be taught online for the 2020-21 academic year. Undergraduate tuition of $49,653 remains the same.

 

[fourthandshort]

UST IN: Harvard announces all course instruction will be taught online for the 2020-21 academic year. Undergraduate tuition of $49,653 remains the same.

did they mention any adjustment to Fees ?

 

[Virginia Redbird]

This June 23rd article from the Tribune I found interesting. In the article, there is talk that the push to have fall football is all about money. I was thinking that on the Power 5 level it most certainly is. In some cases, up to 80% of the entire athletic revenue is Power 5 football. Will some Universities toss players on the field ... you bet they will. I did not see the same connection with the programs outside the Power 5. A comment was made the Universities are pushing to open campus because they are concerned that parents will not cut that same ridiculously expensive tuition check for all online classes. I was just thinking as I read the Harvard comments that are the parents really going to pay almost $50,000 for all online courses? Yep, I know that many of the people sending their kids to Harvard have exceedingly deep pockets but that is to go to Harvard, not surf Harvard. One of the writers comments that they should not play the Illinois/Illinois State game because the two schools will have such different testing methods.

I agree with the article that the NFL will play in the fall. There may be some schedule adjustments and empty stadiums but they will play. I am beginning to think more and more that there will not be much if any college football this fall. It will not be very long before we find out. The clock is ticking...

What will college football look like when it returns — and is it even smart to play now?

We’re desperate for football scores, right? But shield your eyes from this one, dear readers. CORONAVIRUS 27, FOOTBALL FANS 3 That’s how last week felt as optimism from the likes of Aub…

www.chicagotribune.com

 

[MadBird]

Another DIII conference cancelling fall sports, Centennial Conference, Pennsylvania and Maryland schools. Some pretty competitive nationally in football at least.

A D-III conference has decided to cancel football and fall 2020 sports - FootballScoop

 

[fdbird83]

Stanford eliminates 11 varsity sports.

Mercury News
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BREAKING: Stanford, home to the most successful intercollegiate athletic program in the country, has eliminated varsity 11 teams because of coronavirus-related financial constraints.

Stanford eliminates 11 varsity sports in the face of mounting deficit, pandemic impact

Field hockey and men’s volleyball are among the sports eliminated as coronavirus issues create the need for financial stability.

www.mercurynews.com

 

[fdbird83]

Not college but interesting.

Dowling Catholic baseball, softball seasons canceled after positive test for COVID-19

An already-shortened season became even shorter for the Dowling Catholic baseball and softball teams.

www.desmoinesregister.com