22-23 Schedule

[ISU86]

No need for ISU/SIU/UIC/Bradley to all be in an All Illinois Tournament because they play each other at least twice a year anyway.
Same for NU/Illanoy & EIU/SIUE
That would leave:
DePaul/LUC/WIU/CSU

So maybe:
All Chicago Area Tournament: (4 Teams)
DePaul/LUC/NU/UIC @ Allstate Arena

All Illinois Tournament (8 Teams)
(4) DePaul/LUC/WIU/CSU
(1) NU or Illanoy (Rotating each year)
(1) EIU or SIUE (Rotating each year)
(1) ISU/SIU/UIC/Bradley (Rotating each year)
Suggestion’s on how to select the 8th team?
Maybe Illanoy & Northwestern in every year?

Hosting Venue when team is not participating that year:
(1 of these)
State Farm Arena
Redbird Arena
Carver Arena

All 8 schools get 10% of tickets and keep revenue from the ticket sales. Host school keeps remaining 20% of tickets (and returned unsold tickets could be used for walk up/game day purchase) and revenue from sales to pay for hosting expenses.

I see more of the Illinois "privates" and/or "publics" having their own event.

Privates
- Bradley (Missouri Valley)
- DePaul (Big East)
- Loyola-Chicago (Atlantic 10)
- Northwestern (Big Ten)

Publics
- Chicago State (Independent)
- Eastern Illinois (Ohio Valley)
- Illinois (Big Ten)
- Illinois State (Missouri Valley)
- Illinois-Chicago (Missouri Valley)
- Northern Illinois (Mid-American)
- Southern Illinois (Missouri Valley)
- Southern Illinois-Edwardsville (Ohio Valley)
- Western Illinois (Summit)

I could see the privates possibly doing it, at least once, as it could be a two-day event (bracket style).

I think it is less than a one percent chance, barring some sort of legislature mandate, you would ever see the Illini giving up three potential home buy games (and they get about half of the other in-state publics to come in as it stands). Plus, if you wanted to include (almost) everyone, it would be three days. Also, if bracket-style, both the MVC and OVC would probably have to be strategically placed in a bracket to try and avoid potential match-ups for as long as feasible.

Leveraging last season's NCAA NET Ranking, and assuming Illinois (15) would not participate, this would what the two brackets would look like

PRIVATE
#1 Loyola-Chicago (28) vs #4 DePaul (103)
#2 Northwestern (91) vs #3 Bradley (102)

PUBLIC
#1 Southern Illinois (137) vs #8 Eastern Illinois (356)
#4 Illinois-Chicago (283) vs #5 Northern Illinois (297)
#2 Illinois State (200) vs #7 Chicago State (340)
#3 Western Illinois (239) vs #6 Southern Illinois-Edwardsville (292)

Swapped SIUE and NIU to keep the OVC schools on opposite sides of the bracket.

I would also add Bank Of Springfield Center (Springfield) as a possible site, especially if the legislature gets involved. Capital city and no dog in the fight.

 

[Dmills]

I see more of the Illinois "privates" and/or "publics" having their own event.

Privates
- Bradley (Missouri Valley)
- DePaul (Big East)
- Loyola-Chicago (Atlantic 10)
- Northwestern (Big Ten)

Publics
- Chicago State (Independent)
- Eastern Illinois (Ohio Valley)
- Illinois (Big Ten)
- Illinois State (Missouri Valley)
- Illinois-Chicago (Missouri Valley)
- Northern Illinois (Mid-American)
- Southern Illinois (Missouri Valley)
- Southern Illinois-Edwardsville (Ohio Valley)
- Western Illinois (Summit)

I could see the privates possibly doing it, at least once, as it could be a two-day event (bracket style).

I think it is less than a one percent chance, barring some sort of legislature mandate, you would ever see the Illini giving up three potential home buy games (and they get about half of the other in-state publics to come in as it stands). Plus, if you wanted to include (almost) everyone, it would be three days. Also, if bracket-style, both the MVC and OVC would probably have to be strategically placed in a bracket to try and avoid potential match-ups for as long as feasible.

Leveraging last season's NCAA NET Ranking, and assuming Illinois (15) would not participate, this would what the two brackets would look like

PRIVATE
#1 Loyola-Chicago (28) vs #4 DePaul (103)
#2 Northwestern (91) vs #3 Bradley (102)

PUBLIC
#1 Southern Illinois (137) vs #8 Eastern Illinois (356)
#4 Illinois-Chicago (283) vs #5 Northern Illinois (297)
#2 Illinois State (200) vs #7 Chicago State (340)
#3 Western Illinois (239) vs #6 Southern Illinois-Edwardsville (292)

Swapped SIUE and NIU to keep the OVC schools on opposite sides of the bracket.

I would also add Bank Of Springfield Center (Springfield) as a possible site, especially if the legislature gets involved. Capital city and no dog in the fight.

I don't see that working out on the public side but good thoughts and nice idea. I will say I do like the idea of the Bank of Springfield Center hosting if anything ever materializes though.

 

[TBS_20]

No. Best play best. Need to help scheduling

 

[jbird]

About 40 years ago, ISU hosted its own "Holiday Classic" four team Christmas time tournament in Horton where the teams in addition to the Redbirds were Eastern Illinois, Northern Illinois and Mississippi. That's about the only opportunity to bring multiple instate schools together.

 

[Dmills]

Out of boredom, I have compiled a list (As of July 14) of schools in equivalent or better conferences that still have openings for 11/7 (hoping we get a quality opponent). Roughly half of schools have an opening night opponent on 2022-23 Conference Dockets. I have a feeling we will know our opponent and/or schedule soon but will update periodically if not.

Generally more likely to have a home and home (AAC, A-10, MWC, WCC)
Cincinnati, East Carolina, Memphis, SMU, Tulsa, Davidson, Dayton, Duquesne, George Washington, La Salle, Loyola-Chicago, UMass, Saint Joseph's, VCU, Air Force, Boise State, Fresno State, Nevada, UNLV, Utah State, Wyoming, Loyola Marymount, Pepperdine, Saint Mary's, San Diego

Generally more likely to be bought (ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 12, SEC)
Boston College, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Louisville, NC State, Notre Dame, UCONN, Georgetown, Providence, Seton Hall, Villanova, Michigan State, Northwestern, Penn State, Wisconsin, Baylor, Oklahoma, TCU, Texas Tech, Oregon, Oregon State, UCLA, Washington, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

Here is the update a week later. Probably about 12 schools I was able to take off the list this week. 46% (22/47) of schools in the mid-major conferences listed above have an opening night opponent announced. 57% (44/76) of schools in major conferences listed above have an opening night opponent announced.

If it keeps dwindling and we still receive no updates, I will add other conferences.

 

[ISU86]

I don't see that working out on the public side but good thoughts and nice idea. I will say I do like the idea of the Bank of Springfield Center hosting if anything ever materializes though.

The public side, without Illinois, is probably easier to pull off but less likely to draw a lot of eyeballs/interest (even as poor as we were last year we were still the third highest ranked public in the state) so no real driver. The private would be interesting.

 

[Redbird222]

Potential Loyola/Murray St matchup

 

[Redbirdfan21]

Potential Loyola/Murray St matchup

Deleted tweet. What did it say?

 

[Manchester Matt]

Deleted tweet. What did it say?

Rothstein’s original tweet had the Racers playing Loyola in the opening round.

 

[Redbird222]

Deleted tweet. What did it say?

Rothstein had Murray St playing Loyola in the opening round of a tournament. He deleted it and reposted that Loyola is playing Tulsa and Murray St is playing Texas AM in the same tournament

 

[Manchester Matt]

 

[Adunk33]

Updated with what we know so far. I'd imagine they add a game the week of Xmas or new years.
10/29: Wooster
11/7: Western Illinois
11/10: at EIU
11/12: at Northwestern State
11/17: Northwestern State
11/21: vs LSU (Cayman Islands)
11/22: vs TBD (Cayman Islands)
11/23: vs TBD (Cayman Islands)
11/29-12/4 (two MVC games, one home, one away)
12/7: vs EMU
12/10 - SIUE
12/17: vs Ball State (at Indianapolis)
12/19- Chicago State

 

[Adunk33]

Pedon keeping travel costs down. Added a game on @ EIU on Nov 10. Lots of ball in a short amount of time!

 

[BirdGrad2011]

Don’t hate this at all for year 1. Would’ve liked a buy game, but that can come. Can get some quality games part of the Cayman Islands then very winnable games beyond. Establish the culture and head into conference play with some confidence.

 

[DougSutton]

I'll give a pass for year 1 for sure. I just hope Pedon's scheduling philosophy doesn't mirror Jancovich. I can't think of a Jancovich non conference schedule that was weaker than this one. Definite pass on year 1.

I do know a lot of coaches understand the record is what matters on a resume so to be able to mention a turnaround from X wins to Y wins in a year sounds impressive. The quality of those wins is never mentioned in these articles.
Outside of the Cayman Islands tournament, Ball State is the only game I care about other than practice time for the kids.

I fully support coach Pedon, just saying these opponents don't excite me at all.

 

[Redbird222]

Illinois Schools on Schedule
Bradley
UIC
SIU
WIU
EIU
SIUE
Chicago St

Illinois schools not on schedule
U OF I
DePaul
Loyola
NIU
Northwestern

 

[Redbird222]

Not a very exciting schedule even for his first-year

Also I am guessing EIU is a home and home which means EIU and Chicago St would be on the schedule for next year

 

[TBS_20]

The I'm trying to move on from isu quick schedule.

 

[Bird Friend]

Not a very exciting schedule even for his first-year

Also I am guessing EIU is a home and home which means EIU and Chicago St would be on the schedule for next year

Well if it's not, I hope EIU can pay the "buy game" fee . . .

 

[ISU86]

#MACtion?