Next year’s Non-conference schedule

BackTheBirds

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I know the season’s not over, but just looking ahead to next year. Anyone know of any non-conference games for next season? Seems like we ended a few H/H’s this year.
 

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BackTheBirds said:
I know the season’s not over, but just looking ahead to next year. Anyone know of any non-conference games for next season? Seems like we ended a few H/H’s this year.

Northern Kentucky home
UTSan Antonio Home
I thought I heard UAB start H/H
Cancun Challaenge ... will play 2 of 3 ... Purdue/Clemson/Mississippi State
 

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NKU and UTSA are a couple solid mid-major games. I would love to get a H/H with an A-10 school (URI, SLU, Dayton) and an AAC school (Tulsa,USF)
 

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BackTheBirds said:
NKU and UTSA are a couple solid mid-major games. I would love to get a H/H with an A-10 school (URI, SLU, Dayton) and an AAC school (Tulsa, USF)

add New Mexico State to that list, quality opponent in that they always dominate WAC resulting in top-75 ranking
 

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ISU86 said:
BackTheBirds said:
NKU and UTSA are a couple solid mid-major games. I would love to get a H/H with an A-10 school (URI, SLU, Dayton) and an AAC school (Tulsa, USF)

add New Mexico State to that list, quality opponent in that they always dominate WAC resulting in top-75 ranking

Add New Mexico State to this list of teams we are playing, or to the list of teams you would like to get a h/h with?
 

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Jans would embarrass ISU. He is going to the NCAAs on a regular basis. Almost beat FF team in the first round last year
 

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jamminjamarsmiley said:
Jans would embarrass ISU. He is going to the NCAAs on a regular basis. Almost beat FF team in the first round last year

Please go away!!
 

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Elgin said he wants Valley teams to stop playing non-D1 opponents during the regular season, so hopefully we don't have a random D2 throw away game during the season next year.
 

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DWRedbird said:
Elgin said he wants Valley teams to stop playing non-D1 opponents during the regular season, so hopefully we don't have a random D2 throw away game during the season next year.

UNI had two of them this season. Could of scheduled two quality opponents to boost their at large resume instead.

Yes it needs to stop
 

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jamminjamarsmiley said:
DWRedbird said:
Elgin said he wants Valley teams to stop playing non-D1 opponents during the regular season, so hopefully we don't have a random D2 throw away game during the season next year.

UNI had two of them this season. Could of scheduled two quality opponents to boost their at large resume instead.

Yes it needs to stop

I agree with you. I think UNI was the main driver behind Elgin's comments after the MVC tourney.
 

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DWRedbird said:
jamminjamarsmiley said:
DWRedbird said:
Elgin said he wants Valley teams to stop playing non-D1 opponents during the regular season, so hopefully we don't have a random D2 throw away game during the season next year.

UNI had two of them this season. Could of scheduled two quality opponents to boost their at large resume instead.

Yes it needs to stop

I agree with you. I think UNI was the main driver behind Elgin's comments after the MVC tourney.

I know Elgin took away the Jank tiebreakers (sort of, the NET still looks at SOS).... But, it may be time to implement something that would encourage tougher schedules. Although UNI did play in a quality MTE and at Colorado... I would be fine with their schedule if they played a couple of other mid majors and got rid of the non d-1.
 

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jamminjamarsmiley said:
DWRedbird said:
Elgin said he wants Valley teams to stop playing non-D1 opponents during the regular season, so hopefully we don't have a random D2 throw away game during the season next year.

UNI had two of them this season. Could of scheduled two quality opponents to boost their at large resume instead.

Yes it needs to stop
jamminjamarsmiley said:
DWRedbird said:
Elgin said he wants Valley teams to stop playing non-D1 opponents during the regular season, so hopefully we don't have a random D2 throw away game during the season next year.

UNI had two of them this season. Could of scheduled two quality opponents to boost their at large resume instead.

Yes it needs to stop
Missouri State was only Valley school to be non-DI free. Bradley, Evansville, Illinois State, Indiana State, Loyola Chicago, Southern Illinois and Valparaiso all scheduled one, with Drake and Northern Iowa having two.

There is no guarantee, with the additional slots, does not mean they would go after, or be able to get, quality opposition. I would think they have a minimum number of home games they prefer to hold. They could just as easily have scheduled the likes of Kennesaw State and Chicago State.

The P5+BE are generally avoiding buying the likes of the MVC. They prefer to pound on the MEAC and SWAC, then throw in a MTE and a conference challenge for good measure, then increase the number of conference games. So that means targeting the likes of AAC, A10 and MWC schools, or find schools that routinely are playing for their conference bid (Belmont, Murray State, New Mexico State, North Dakota State, South Dakota State).

Scheduling is continuing to be more of a nightmare for the mid-majors. Difficult needle to thread. For as much grief Dan Muller has received in other areas, he has made a concerted effort to schedule tougher than the Basketball Travellers Classic days of Tim Jankovich.
 

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jamminjamarsmiley said:
I know Elgin took away the Jank tiebreakers (sort of, the NET still looks at SOS).... But, it may be time to implement something that would encourage tougher schedules. Although UNI did play in a quality MTE and at Colorado... I would be fine with their schedule if they played a couple of other mid majors and got rid of the non d-1.

I definitely think it is time to implement something that would at least encourage teams not to schedule non-D1 opponents. A couple of good mid-majors this year improve UNI's chance at an at large this year.
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Missouri State was only Valley school to be non-DI free. Bradley, Evansville, Illinois State, Indiana State, Loyola Chicago, Southern Illinois and Valparaiso all scheduled one, with Drake and Northern Iowa having two.

There is no guarantee, with the additional slots, does not mean they would go after, or be able to get, quality opposition. I would think they have a minimum number of home games they prefer to hold. They could just as easily have scheduled the likes of Kennesaw State and Chicago State.

The P5+BE are generally avoiding buying the likes of the MVC. They prefer to pound on the MEAC and SWAC, then throw in a MTE and a conference challenge for good measure, then increase the number of conference games. So that means targeting the likes of AAC, A10 and MWC schools, or find schools that routinely are playing for their conference bid (Belmont, Murray State, New Mexico State, North Dakota State, South Dakota State).

Scheduling is continuing to be more of a nightmare for the mid-majors. Difficult needle to thread. For as much grief Dan Muller has received in other areas, he has made a concerted effort to schedule tougher than the Basketball Travellers Classic days of Tim Jankovich.

I would agree that scheduling is difficult, but I'd always want to schedule a D1 opponent of any caliber than I would a D1.

I don't have a problem with Muller's scheduling over all. I'm generally pretty satisfied with it but, I've never been a fan of the non-D1 in the middle of the season as it doesn't really do anything for the team.
 

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I would prefer a mountain west, a-10, American, CUSA or even a west coast conference type opponent. Yeah they may not be the sexy top 25 team but at least it’s a d1 game. Playing Quincy or UIS is a waste of time!!
 

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BackTheBirds said:
NKU and UTSA are a couple solid mid-major games. I would love to get a H/H with an A-10 school (URI, SLU, Dayton) and an AAC school (Tulsa,USF)

Northern Kentucky won the Horizon League Tournament. They will be in the NCAA Tournament. Hope they can win a game, or two.
 

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ISU86 said:
jamminjamarsmiley said:
DWRedbird said:
Elgin said he wants Valley teams to stop playing non-D1 opponents during the regular season, so hopefully we don't have a random D2 throw away game during the season next year.

UNI had two of them this season. Could of scheduled two quality opponents to boost their at large resume instead.

Yes it needs to stop
jamminjamarsmiley said:
DWRedbird said:
Elgin said he wants Valley teams to stop playing non-D1 opponents during the regular season, so hopefully we don't have a random D2 throw away game during the season next year.

UNI had two of them this season. Could of scheduled two quality opponents to boost their at large resume instead.

Yes it needs to stop
Missouri State was only Valley school to be non-DI free. Bradley, Evansville, Illinois State, Indiana State, Loyola Chicago, Southern Illinois and Valparaiso all scheduled one, with Drake and Northern Iowa having two.

There is no guarantee, with the additional slots, does not mean they would go after, or be able to get, quality opposition. I would think they have a minimum number of home games they prefer to hold. They could just as easily have scheduled the likes of Kennesaw State and Chicago State.

The P5+BE are generally avoiding buying the likes of the MVC. They prefer to pound on the MEAC and SWAC, then throw in a MTE and a conference challenge for good measure, then increase the number of conference games. So that means targeting the likes of AAC, A10 and MWC schools, or find schools that routinely are playing for their conference bid (Belmont, Murray State, New Mexico State, North Dakota State, South Dakota State).

Scheduling is continuing to be more of a nightmare for the mid-majors. Difficult needle to thread. For as much grief Dan Muller has received in other areas, he has made a concerted effort to schedule tougher than the Basketball Travellers Classic days of Tim Jankovich.

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