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Never too early... 18-19 Non-conf schedule

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Adunk33
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Adunk33 wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:20 pm
We are looking for "a Home & Home on the Road vs a Top 100 RPI.
VCU- VCU is looking for a H/H series to start at VCU. Please email with interest. December 15th - 22nd are best dates,
Ill just put this here. Original post date: Friday, June 8.

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Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:20 am

I always thought Shooter from Hoosiers was a good coach :)

Adunk33
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:17 pm

Illinois State is looking to buy a team on Dec 16th. Able to offer a competitive guarantee.

So it looks like one of our final games to schedule will be against a scrub at Redbird. Eastern Michigan is looking for a game on that date.

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Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:40 pm

Most likely Clemson
Hopefully Creighton
Georgia
Brigham Young
FGCU
Mississippi
San Diego St.
Central Florida
Illinois - Chicago
Home buy game vs crap D1
11. Road buy vs P6?
12. Home vs D2?

Decent but I'd rather take a H&H vs VCU or St. Mary's on the road vs home D2.

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Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:41 pm

Great research everyone. Really exciting things happening! Muller is solidifying himself (in my book) as the best coach I have seen lead the Birds. I loved Stallings too, but Muller is passing him!
"You can look at the menu, but you just can't eat. You can feel the cushions, but you can't have a seat."

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Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:55 pm

Stallings : 123-63 = .661 winning % (6 years) Ranked #24 in 1997, 2 time regular Season champ. '97/'98, 2 NCAA births, 2.88 SOS
Muller: 122-80 = .604 winning % (6 years) Unranked, 1 regular Season champ. 2017, 0 NCAA births. 2.89 SOS

[SOS - A rating of strength of schedule. The rating is denominated in points above/below average, where zero is average. Non-Division I games are excluded from the ratings.]

By the stats, Stallings body of work was better of course. I would also take into account Muller's recruiting and scheduling and give Muller the upper hand on that. What do you all think?

*Stats taken from sports-reference.com
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:16 pm

Donewald 207 - 122 3 NCAA (2 into the 2nd rounds) 1 Reg season conf champ
in a much tougher conf

WoodlandWarrior
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:48 pm

Donewald was a great coach. He recruited some very good players from Indiana.

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Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:45 pm

Adunk33 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:17 pm
Illinois State is looking to buy a team on Dec 16th. Able to offer a competitive guarantee.

So it looks like one of our final games to schedule will be against a scrub at Redbird. Eastern Michigan is looking for a game on that date.
So if we out a few of these bits of info together,
Finals over on dec 15
Looking for home buy game dec 16
Maybe road trip to VCU later that week
Then continuation of road trip to UCF on Dec 21

That all seeems logistically feasible.

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Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:13 pm

Stallings had the best Stare by far

(you had to be there) :clap:

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Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:41 am

Someone posted on the league forum that ISU/VCU H&H is set up starting with road game in 2018. Is this confirmed? I see above ADunk said they are looking but nothing concrete.

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RicoBryson
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Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:58 am

Yes, TP the Stallings stare was incredible. I didnt see Donewald coach (Bender was the first I saw) so I cant vote for him, but he is up there will all-time ISU coaches for sure.
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Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:18 pm

An Evansville fan posted on Bradley forum saying ISU added VCU to their schd...home and home but no dates Tornado immediately down graded them

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Tornado is a POS with zero clue how to run a message board.

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ISU86 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:40 pm
CaliRdBrd wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:16 pm
Y'all know that last years rpi means nada. Teams fall off the radar all the time (i.e. St. Joe's, Murray State, for example)
past performance is no guarantee of future results ...
... and ice is cold

Thank you Captain Obvious
Then why go through all the trouble pasting in last years’ opponents’ RPI??

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Rare situation here. It starts at SFA.

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ISU86
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CaliRdBrd wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:30 pm
ISU86 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:40 pm
CaliRdBrd wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:16 pm
Y'all know that last years rpi means nada. Teams fall off the radar all the time (i.e. St. Joe's, Murray State, for example)
past performance is no guarantee of future results ...
... and ice is cold

Thank you Captain Obvious
Then why go through all the trouble pasting in last years’ opponents’ RPI??
what are better options to gauge by
- recruiting rankings
- grade point average
- average height
- average weight
- arena size
- school enrollment
- school endowment

Yes, again, nothing is perfect ... even preseason conference projections. Using your logic, just schedule anyone and hope for the best at the end of the regular season (wait, that was the Tim Jankovich philosophy). Maybe in-state only, save on costs.

Last year's RPI is at least a relative approximation of where the team has been and could be again. If there was a rolling five-year program strength ranking out there, that may be better (at least until the coach changes).
no matter where you go ... there you are

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Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:08 pm

Least to most excited to see (entertainment)
1. Lindenwood
2. Chicago St
3. Cleveland St
4. Florida Gulf Coast
5. @UIC
6. Georgia
7. @Belmont road test against quality team
8. Ole Miss ... thank you Twitter
9. Clemson (ACC ... and of course assume we both win)
10. San Diego St (Hope Steve Fisher can Attend)
11. @Central Florida (Revenge and 7"6"center)
12. Creighton (Not given but why not. Beat the Other Greg and former MVC foe)
13. BYU - I just have a feeling this could be a classic against a good opppnent

I actually think games 4 -13 can be entertaining.

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